On a lighter note — tell me how this works.

I left this post in limbo for a few weeks because I was a bit drunk when I first wrote it. Well now I’m a bit drunk again so what the hell.

Reading this site for a few weeks (before all the DT stuff) it seems that the most bitter and angry posts are from western men who have got themselves entangled with filipinas and their families. I am curious… why? What is the attraction?

For the record and full disclosure, I came here in 2004, husband in tow, I had a good job and I thought things were fine. Within a few months I suspected he had taken up with someone else, and late in 2006 this was confirmed. A GRO working somewhere on Burgos Street.

I didn’t waste much time, kicked the asshole out but that was a long time coming in any event. I suppose he could have stayed here with his hooker but he didn’t have the funds. No clue where he is now and don’t care, and that was after about a 20 year relationship. Shit happens.

So in the meantime… I met and dated some nice western men. A couple of retired US marines, a Swiss chef, an Australian engineer. Nice guys, transient. With few exceptions, they had “dated” very young filipino women and told me they had nothing in common, but of course — beautiful young bodies I guess.

When I read this site and the histories, they ring familiar. One of the first guys, I met in Boracay. We sat at a seaside bar and he pointed out that the women across the bar were staring daggers at me — I wouldn’t have noticed. He took me to his friend’s wedding the next day up the beach. The 60 year old retired marine marrying a 19 year old girl named Princess. Wanna guess how that worked out? I saw the guy a couple years later and he was broke, playing pool in a shitty bar in Makati while Princess flaunted her new boobs and braces, and boasted about the house he had built, that her extended family had over-run and the guy was eventually kicked out or he left out of despair.

Also for the record, I cannot imagine or entertain the the thought of dating a filipino, for all sorts of reason which I won’t get into. But certainly the culture would be the main one.

My sister’s ex comes here every year to find his next ex-wife. He is the same age as me, early ’60s, and so far seems to have had about 30 fiancees in the last decade. He always goes home alone.

Why am I even writing this? Because I really don’t get it. I lived in Makati for 10 years and could not get my head around the 60-70 year old men carrying babies on their backs while their young wives/girlfriends walked behind them absorbed in their iPhones.

Happily I have a plan to leave this absurd country where nobody gives a shit about anything or anyone except  themselves. In the meantime, your stories about your filipina spouses are entertaining to say the least.

I hope this post does not come off as arrogant but if it does I offer no apologies. I think I’ve paid my dues. But seriously, I wish you all well.

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  1. Profile gravatar of Captain PFB
    Captain PFB

    Well for most, they were unaware of the deplorable culture and idiocy before they got hooked up with their Filipinas. They only learned about it after the fact. I mean, I think before any of us really knew much about the Philippines, we all said to ourselves, “It can’t be that bad”. Only to discover it’s much worse than they could have possibly imagined.

    Reading all these posts, they were written by us westerners after years of living in Philippines. There is no quick way to learn about how fucking bad it is here (until I created this website). It’s no instant revelation. It’s gradual. We fight back the thoughts and feelings of “my god these people fucking imbeciles!”. But eventually, we come to say that without a shred of those bad feelings after a year or two. And by that time, most of us are kinda stuck.

    1. Profile gravatar of leavinglaspinas
      leavinglaspinas Post author

      I get that, Captain. But the guy I mentioned who married Princess had actually lived here for years. In fact he was married to Princess’s aunt until Princess showed up to live with them at age 13 or so. He just traded his wife for a newer model.

    2. Profile gravatar of leavinglaspinas
      leavinglaspinas Post author

      By the way, this site is by far among the most revealing and real things that can be seen about this country. It should be required reading for anyone planning to move here for any reason.

  2. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
    Random Numbers

    Men are stupid, easily turned by beauty, youth, and silicon covered by skin. I mean, what can you say about men who spend 2 weeks choosing a wife? Most men spend more time looking for a car or a house than that!

    1. Profile gravatar of Mike
      Mike

      Random,
      I think it’s more a case of desperation. They come here and the women sweet talk them regardless of how old, fat or ugly the man is. Notice how many have come on this and brag that they toured the country picking up GROs then find one they like better than the others and marry her. The old saying “You can’t turn a whore into a house wife.” Then they act like they found the greatest woman on Earth. Classic case of little head doing the thinking.

    2. Profile gravatar of leavinglaspinas
      leavinglaspinas Post author

      Yeah, my sister’s ex seems to have no problem finding another finance every time he comes here. Oddly enough, he is quite an intelligent guy in one sense but a complete and utter dolt in this one. He’s also a bigoted asshole but that’s neither here nor there.

    3. Profile gravatar of Catabisis
      Catabisis

      Random Numbers,, part of our problem is that we are wired subconsciously through evolution to be as lions on the Serengeti; we think we are supposed to spread our seed far and wide.
      So you get guys some guys here who think all these young women smiling at their old ass is really physical attraction when, in fact, it is all about seeing gold painted onto their white, hanging asses. So, Ricco Suavé, awashed in his infinite ego, takes up his 19 year old bride. After a few years he discovers this website and becomes a lifetime member. Welcome to the Philippines. Where men are men, and goats are nervous.

  3. Profile gravatar of BLX2
    BLX2

    Pinays are touted on many forums as making wonderful wife’s. They have no problem taking care of the house. They are great lovers. They really love their man and are family oriented. Warning for the Gold diggers looking for just money. On the dating sites there are a lot that make it obvious they are digging for gold, so the ones not as obvious must be the good ones they praise on the forums. In the beginning, I was 5 years out of a very long relationship with an American woman that was, well, pretty brutal. I thought the issue was “Western” woman, although I knew not all Western woman were like that, what guy lets go of a good woman and the forums claimed the fils was loaded with them without the “Western” woman attitude. These poor good hearted girls were taken advantage of by ungrateful Pinoys who did not appreciate what they had. At the time I knew nothing about Cluster B. I knew my ex Western woman was fucked up, but I did not understand the real issue. I now know she was HPD.

    Well I connected with X1 who hid the money issue for about a year and a half until she was in the USA. After 2 1/2 years of misery in the USA, divorce in process, I discovered NPD was the issue. Still didn’t know about Cluster B and still had no answer for what was wrong with the “Western” ex. Thinking I knew what to rule out when looking again in the Phils I returned. X2 really didn’t have money problems at all and I was hit with the “love bomb”. Actually pretty smart, learned quick, really was wonderful. Only she seemed to lose control every 2 to 6 weeks. Just couldn’t figure it out. It was like Jekyll and Hyde as I went down the rabbit hole. It was totally perplexing as insanity entered my life like never before. Then was when I learned (from a psychologist here) about both HPD and Cluster B. Over 2,000 hours of research on the subject of Cluster B’s and their “Targets” gave me answers to decades of questions. Well, X2 was core HPD with narcissistic rage and at times ASPD traits. My Western ex was an HPD, as well as a Western ex before her. And I was a target for these type of people. It also explains all the incredible bullshit that goes on here. Saying the Philippines is a Narcissistic Society is no joke. But to be more accurate it is actually a Cluster B society. Filled with Borderlines, Histrionics, Narcissists, Sociopaths and Psychopaths mixed with traits from all over the Cluster B spectrum.

    Came for a good woman. Ended up learning the reality of Toxic people from all angles.

    1. Profile gravatar of BLX2
      BLX2

      “They have no problem taking care of the house. They are great lovers. They really love their man and are family oriented.”

      Oh, they are not good housekeepers, you’re awful to them to expect them to take care of a house bigger than a nipa hut, a maid is required to do that. Since they never had a real bathroom, it is a major thing they think they do to clean it. It is abusive to try to teach them to care for their own home. They eat shit and forcing them to eat decent food is cruel. Some are good in bed, some not so good. Out of control jealousy isn’t love, it is insecurity caused by their pathology. And family oriented means taking from others and giving to their parasitical pamily.

      1. Profile gravatar of Angeleyes
        Angeleyes

        Awesome reply @biggestloserx2. I totally agree with you about the cleaning and eating good food. A Pionays idea of cleaning is to do the dishes, wipe down the bench and table and mop the floor. My wife often entertains the idea of cleaning a few houses for some spare cash, that was until I pointed out how shit she is at cleaning, things like mould in the tile grout, dirty windows. If she was my cleaner she would be fired after a few weeks. They really dont understand how to look after anything bigger than a Nipa Hut.
        Also getting them to eat properly. The only veges my wife used to eat were chokos, eggplant and cabbage. Also getting her into eating fruit was a major thing and she still does not take to it. Getting her to even taste anything new was such a mission. Often she would put something to her mouth and say I dont like it yet she did not actually taste it. When she was pregnant I was really worried about the health of our unborn baby as she did not eat a balanced diet. I managed to get her into taking vitamin pills for pregnant women and thank G-d she did as our child is actually really big and healthy.
        Isn’t it amazing how in Asia, in my opinion, they have the most amazing food in the world. Think Thai, Malaysian, Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese and the rest, all amazingly delicious foods yet Filipino food? What the fuck went wrong there? I live in the most multicultural city in the world, we have all the restaurants in the world. Filipinos are the third largest ethnic Asian group here yet I have only found 2 Filipino restaurants and the food was bloody disgusting. Typically Filipino, cooked at different tempretures and smelt like cat food and all the food in the Bay Marie was one colour, grey. The fact there are few Filipino restaurants here is evidence enough that their food is total shit but PFBers will know what I mean.

        1. Profile gravatar of Mike
          Mike

          Angel,
          The food smelled like cat food huh? Look at the bright side, it did not smell like the litter box. Bur most likely tasted like something from the litter box.

          1. Profile gravatar of Angeleyes
            Angeleyes

            @oldnavyfart it really did have that smell of jellymeat fresh from the can. I kid you not for the next 2 days if I burped I could taste it again. We were there on a Sunday for lunch and the wife reckoned she would not be surprised if that food had been sitting in the Bay Marie since Thursday lunchtime. Pinoys are pretty good at telling how old food is.

          2. Profile gravatar of Mike
            Mike

            Angel,
            Here’s my newest adventure into the mindset of filipinos. Wife went out running errands and took our son with her. A few days later I opened the fridge and there sits a box of Dunkin Donut holes so I figure they are the sons and wife and don’t touch them as I like the Bavarian donuts. Now these things have been sitting in the fridge for about a week and a half now so you know they are hard as rocks. Now me being me I asked them how come they did not eat the donuts and their reply “We don’t like the donut holes.”

            Yes, that was the reply. I could only scratch my head as I walked away thinking “Then why did you buy them knowing you don’t like them and would;d not eat them?” It’s like my ex wife from Bulacan. She would go to a store and rummage through the bargain bin looking for treasures. One day she comes home with about 6 tv remotes for tvs that were made back in the early 1980’s that cost $1 each, this was in the late 1990’s. So I asked her why buy remotes when we don’t have the tv for them. Her reply was that they were only $1 each and we might need them in the future.
            It did not matter to her that the tvs for the remotes were from models that were discontinued years before.

          3. Profile gravatar of Angeleyes
            Angeleyes

            It is amazing what a Pinay will collect. I must have a cupboard full of plastic shopping bags. If I ever try and throw some out the wife is all “no no we may need them one day” even though we go shopping twice a week and get more every time. The cupboard just gets fuller and fuller. Got to love to how they never throw out a shiny box with colours on it. I must have 6 or 7 empty huggies nappy boxes (big ones that hold 160 and all shiny and glossy) and I dont dare touch them even though our bedroom is filling up with them. It is like you are rich if you have all these empty boxes around that once contained cool stuff, even if there is nothing around except boxes. These people love trash so much they keep it in the house and display it. Such simpletons.

          4. Profile gravatar of Mike
            Mike

            Angel,
            I know what you mean. First thing I always hear is “Keep it” or “Don’t throw that away”. So now there is a cupboard section that is filled with plastic containers from ice cream, butter and such things.

        2. Profile gravatar of Eau de Tourette
          Eau de Tourette

          First time on the phils i ate the first 2 days not really much. peanut honey bar and water and then i gt hungry on day 2-3 and ate quite some at the buffet. now – the hunger shoved it in i’d say but the quality of food in the phils is aside from some lechon or some fish ( which you can only buy at the coast) not that exciting. the coconuts and the fresh fruits ( if possible to get unsprayed) make it worthy.
          certainly at the sea you get quite a nice selection of seafood but then the dumbass cook is too lazy to clean out the squid and so the taste gets fucked up.

          Effort is something the pinoys dont have going well. they know nothing about international or healthy food.
          they have spices fruits and almost everything hanging on the trees but what do they make of it ?
          go to a chinese restaurant that has a few good cooks and you get a rich tasty dish – steamed fish combined with fresh veggies.

          i tend not to eat out so much any more. the pinoys are not clean. hotel resto – does not matter i just avoid messing up myself with their old dirty foods and kitchens and probably they will never reach the part of fresh milk sour cream whipped cream and dairy products of a fresh kind. because it requires effort attention hygiene.
          sorry to say so. the wife of my gf’s brother was trying to mock me for wanting veggies every day.
          considering how fucking fat and big her ass is and what a stupid cunt she is i once snapped back at her and things NEVER came up again. my gf luckily follows the veggie part more discoveringt hat you feel better not just eating carbs fat and sugar.

          1. Profile gravatar of Angeleyes
            Angeleyes

            @eaudetourette I used to love nothing more than street food like bbq pork and them eggs in the orange coating but then someone here once mentioned that when eating street food there is a good chance the person who prepared it, or selling it, was busting for a shit at some point and went round the back, took a shit, then wiped their ass with water and rinsed their hands then went straight back to what they were doing. As much as I love it I could never ever eat it again.
            I love how your mother in law laughs at you eating veges. I actually wrote an awesome article on Pinoys and food but sorry sir hacked my account and deleted it as well as my articles. It is amazing how they dont eat veges and is often considered something only poor people eat, you have to eat pork cooked a 1000 different ways and plain steamed rice or else you look poor. When my wife came to the real world it was so hard getting her to eat veges and when she was pregnant it really worried me. I dont know how many times I had to ask her “where are the greens?”. It took a while to get into her head that with every meal there must be greens on the plate. I work extremely hard physically and it is an absolute must for me. I remember trying to get here into eating pears and for months she said she did not like them. One day I finally got her to actually taste one and being that they are extremely sweet she loves them now but to get her to even put it in her mouth? It is easier to teach kids to eat their food. I should write another article on their shitty foods.

          2. Profile gravatar of JanIIISobieski
            JanIIISobieski

            @eaudetourette

            My first days or weeks in the Philippines I really triedd to eat diffrent street or local foods like I did before when visiting many other countries. Every country I always wanted to see their food culture and so on. It end here. There is nothing more shitty than the local food here.The funny thing some people here even think that vegetables are only for the poor while eating their fatty lechon.

        3. Profile gravatar of Eau de Tourette
          Eau de Tourette

          Pinoys eat mainly dishes that require not much effort.
          How much dishes have you seen and eaten that require 2-5 hours of prep time ?

          if they did not have the fresh fruits and coconut water they’d be fucked way faster and die even faster than they do these days already due to the crappy shit they eat

          1. Profile gravatar of Angeleyes
            Angeleyes

            easy there @eaudetourette, preparing fryed chicken takes a bit of time as does chop suey. Also holding a skewer, with pork meat on it, over a fire while someone else fans it takes two people. How many dishes do us dumb Kanos know of that require two people to cook?
            And fresh fruits? Unless you have a mango or papaya tree outside most of the fruits I saw at the market are C grade shit that would go to the pigs in a real country.

      2. Profile gravatar of Eau de Tourette
        Eau de Tourette

        some of what you say is right. that is just going for the lowclass average narrowminded stubborn imbecile liars there which basically will always be living in a bananahut or shed. btw.. that is probably 90% of the people there.
        we have a good amount of them in europe as well just not 90% – rather 10-15% depending where you go 🙂

    2. Profile gravatar of leavinglaspinas
      leavinglaspinas Post author

      Interesting response, B. I also learned a lot about Cluster B after divorcing my ex, who I now recognise as a raging narcissist.

      As for pin ays and housekeeping? Yeah… but no. The ones I have employed have been excellent for the most part at keeping MY house clean, which they were well paid to do. But I’ve seen their own living spaces and it’s not pretty.

      I should mention that I had a live-in helper who I hired when I first arrived. There were a few problems here and there, but nothing major until I moved out of the city. She could not handle the change at all, and snapped over something really trivial. She disappeared completely — after working for me for more than 11 years — and resurfaced only to send me texts about how mean I was, how I owed her a year’s salary, that she was going to report me to SSS for never paying her, etc. Meanwhile virtually everyone who knows me knows that I compensated her well above average and with only me (I’m pretty low-maintenance and laid back) and my 2 small dogs to look after.

      1. Profile gravatar of JanIIISobieski
        JanIIISobieski

        @leavinglaspinas

        We had only 2 diffrent cleaning ladies here comming like 2 times a week making the general cleaning. But they didnt last long simple because their cleaning was shit. In my country if hire somebody to clean all the corners and places like under the sofa will be clean while here they just clean in the visible places with a speed of the turtle.

          1. Profile gravatar of Mike
            Mike

            DD,
            You see the news? Agot Isidro has come out against Du. She said he was a serial killer, physcopath, crazy and needs to see a shrink.

          2. Profile gravatar of DingDong
            DingDong

            I saw that this morning. Meanwhile, back at the Ranch . . . . as the Economy continues to slide down the pan, Dutiti plans to issue the No Smoking Executive Order! – What next ‘Tanim Sigarilyo’ by the Houseboy (Pack of Mighty down the back of the sofa, and then call ‘Old Bill!’)

          3. Profile gravatar of Mike
            Mike

            DD,
            Smoking ban? PERFECT!!!! I was debating a supporter and asked him what/who would be the next target on dus hit list and I mentioned smokers. Supporter refused to answer it saying that it was a hypothetical question and not based on reality. Then he said just wait and the police will tape me up and shoot me and then justice is served.

          4. Profile gravatar of Mike
            Mike

            I mean does it get any better? Here I say smokers next on the hit list and the supporters says will not happen. Then the very next day Du puts smokers on his hit list!!

          5. Profile gravatar of Mike
            Mike

            DD,
            Got an Aussie on YouTube kissing Du ass. Aussie said he was in the philippines for three months and the people and country are great. Said he plans on coming here and marrying a pinay and live here for good because it’s so great.
            I replied and told him that his going native after 3 months has to be a record. Told him no one can learn enough about any country or the people in 3 months. he replied that the short time had nothing to do with it. Now do you see a Aussie that is going to get fucked royal and fast and hard?

    1. Profile gravatar of Mike
      Mike

      Leaving,
      I’ve been thinking about your plans to leave and know I have to compete with Al for the spare space in your luggage. I have there fore found a way, I think to get it. Just pack me in and when over the U.S just throw the suitcase out, parachute not required. I think Al might insist that the plane land or minimum demand a parachute attached to the suitcase.

  4. Profile gravatar of Idiotocracy
    Idiotocracy

    Life is what you make of it and Filipinas are no different. I researched and read blogs like this before beginning a search for a Filipina and that was after about nine months of frequent travel to the Philippines and starting up a company there. If you go in without leaving behind your life’s experience and common sense you are going to be fine with these people. Yeah, the place is a shit hole, yes the government is corrupt and out to skin foreigners, yes the girls face heavy pressure to support the family, and yes stupid old men and some stupid young men lose everything to the sharks.

    But it you have enough common sense, do your due diligence, and set expectations and boundaries it can work. Find a girl from the provinces, not the bigger cities, and meet her family before you start banging her so you get a sense of what kind of people they are. Lay out exactly what you will and won’t do and stick to it. If the girl goes back and the family doesn’t accept the deal then go find another one.

    As for what men see… good lord. After fifty years of arrogant, spoiled, crazy, and greedy American women these girls are like a breath of fresh air. Once you set the expectations after have chosen carefully from the tens of thousands of young women you might find yourself with a keeper. You will start doing something like removing your boots after a 30 hour incoming trip only to be told “I’ll be the one to do that.” Your sleep cycle is off and when you wake up at 3:00 am you will be asked if you are hungry and if she should cook for you. Don’t think about trying to help with the dishes or cooking, you will be told to relax. Don’t be surprised if early on the girl tells you that it s okay to have a girlfriend on the side as long as you don’t bring her home or it doesn’t hurt the household. Most of these girls expect that to happen and one of your challenges is getting a good one to accept that you aren’t going to cheat on them or leave them. Most of them will be jealous as hell at first, mine took over two years before she was able to accept that she could relax and not constantly be in fear of being dumped.

    I know a lot of men got screwed over but I found a keeper so it is possible. Here in the U.S. the economy always slows down before a presidential election and my girl noticed the sales lagging and asked about it. I told her about the election slowing things down and showed her that the sales were the same as last September and that things would recover in a few weeks so not to worry. Next thing I knew her younger sister that I am putting through school is wanting to take only half of her allowance and her grandma that helps around the house (doesn’t live there but nearby) is refusing the small amount I give her each month to help out. Of course that is a pittance compared to the ten to fifteen thousand a day that the business spends, easily managed by slowing down production till the economy speeds up again but all these women see is that they are dependent on one guy in America that has to work hard for the money so they will find a way to get by if it eases things.

    People do stupid things, pick the wrong kind of girls for the wrong reasons, and don’t set boundaries. Stupid is as stupid does so the stories of the guys getting trapped out in the boondocks while they drain his retirement savings or kick him out of the house that he built in another persons name are stories that you can hear all over the world. Pick carefully and wisely and always remain in control and you will be fine in the Philippines.

    1. Profile gravatar of 86andBelow
      86andBelow

      @provider-of-nosebleeds. Idiotocracy. I couldn’t agree more. I have a wife that is the opposite of the norm here. The reason I noticed her was because of her natural elegance and industriousness, completely at conflict to the general malaise witnessed on a constant basis.

      Then, when we chatted, she was so straight talking. She would tell me what was wrong with flips and the pitfalls she would avoid. It was like someone from another planet. Her family are the same. Very level headed and hard working.

      I was her second boyfriend, but due to her first being a “player” (that got caught), she was as careful as me. Ground rules were laid out very early on and are still applied now. Never changed. THAT IS THE KEY I THINK.

      She is the most respectful, loving and caring partner I have ever had. No jealousy. No dramas. No demands. The complete opposite of what I see on many occasions and I often don’t want to make comment as it seems boastful.

      But, boy I know I’m very, very lucky. (but also very, very cautious)

      1. Profile gravatar of Idiotocracy
        Idiotocracy

        Glad to hear someone else had a good experience. I’ve always said that everyone I’ve ever met that did me wrong gave big clues as to their intentions or their dysfunctional life within five minutes of meeting them. But a person has to be listening and watching and most of all, not one to dismiss the warnings. A lot of guys would be well served if they kept the old zipper up for a few weeks until after they meet the pamily. Find one that is a hard worker because that is indeed passed down through the family and rarely a personal trait. Kind of had to hide that or the lack of same if their shack is filthy and lives are in constant turmoil due to money or problems.

        But above all else, never make an investment in the Philippines that is too large to walk away from. That attitude is apparent to the girls and their pamilies and it keeps everything in order.

        1. Profile gravatar of 86andBelow
          86andBelow

          Talking with her was a breath of fresh air, as I said. Not the breadth of experience as she comes from a farming background and was out of school at ten to raise her siblings (her father was shot over a chicken he was giving to the guy who shot him for free 🙄) But the depth of insights into what she had observed and her willingness to learn was refreshing.

          In fact, she reads a lot and knows more about the kings and queens of England, some aspects of formula 1, gemology, and whatever next she absorbs her time with. Helps me fix my car and bike until the air is too blue. And, ……wait for it, does not watch flip tv (except the news) and doesn’t cook stinky pish dishes!

          Ps. She lived with her first boyfriend for three months before anything happened and about the same for me…

          1. Profile gravatar of leavinglaspinas
            leavinglaspinas Post author

            I don’t paint all women with the same brush whether western or Filipina. It’s interesting though that you both (Idiotocracy and 86) found women that seem to have more character than the average I’ve seen.

            And for the record, the idea that all western women are greedy, spoiled, arrogant etc. is one I just don’t agree with. Most women I know are strong, independent and don’t take much shit — or stay up until their partners come home from their latest tryst to rub their feet and make them a sandwich. But I don’t see how that makes any of them/us bad people.

  5. Profile gravatar of Denmark2
    Denmark2

    Great post, first because it get the upper head working, second because you raise an issue both towards us men, but also about the culture we’re sucked in to.

    I’m a typical westerner – originate from a wealthy country / society, good job (big pension), social security at hand.
    Coming to this country first time in 2004 was really an eyeopener towards the girls and women here.

    Being married to a gorgeous (we went together) surely helped me avoiding the full flower attention from the girls, but left alone (widowed) in 2006, changed that line.

    Anyway, seen the herd of “rich” western men flocking their money, getting hooked by a much younger girl, soon to became fathers, just before getting screwed for the last penny or dime.

    Sure, I had my share of the women and girls, but never ever will I consider moving there for good.
    Short time stay – maybe even 4-6 month yearly – would fit me well.

    In favor of the Philippine culture (we don’t owe them too much there) I would like to add, that I actually like the country – and some 0,0001% of the FlipFlops living there.
    The rest 99,9999% are the ones we laugh about.

    I come to see former staff members, old business contacts, good friends and from time to time,

    Naturally I do meet up with a new woman / girl for the pleasure (of me), some stays as regulars, some are just the short time fun money can buy.
    I know it makes me look like a monger – and so I am in these cases, not denying the solid facts.

    This forum are to be compared with the Goldmine Shaft.
    Deep down there we’re digging to find just the smallest and otter most minute nugget – and live happily ever after.
    Our “mine” are just overflowing our biggest expectation of shared knowledge about how the people of FlipFlopLand really know how to abuse one another and all those coming there.

    ….. and yet we still come back for more.
    Some for the p****, some in the hunt for “love”.

    I’m there to observe, suck it in, both feeling the pain…… and the joy when my friends cater for me.

    1. Profile gravatar of JanIIISobieski
      JanIIISobieski

      @denmark2

      Always nice to read your posts. Very logic, honest and well formulated. Keep on that.

      PS: Watched Poland Danmark yesterday on ABS CBN. Guess what, the idiots started to show the match after 15 min was played even the broadcast supossed to start 15 min before the match.

      1. Profile gravatar of Denmark2
        Denmark2

        @janiiisobieski
        Thank you very much.
        Actually I feel the urge to write more often, but simply don’t have the time.

        Back to the match….. Did I bet on it..?
        Yes, and naturally for us to win with a guard for a draw.
        You really wiped our ass there.
        The difference between our teams are the effort we put in to the small changes the ball give us.
        I enjoy football very much – but always with the term; “the ball is round and shall be played”

  6. Profile gravatar of Angeleyes
    Angeleyes

    Hey @leavinglaspinas, this is a great post and I have spent a couple of days thinking about it. Of all the replies here the one I can relate to most is Captains except I have never lived there, just lost 63 days of my life over 4 trips there and have no plans on ever returning.
    What you say about older guys is so true and my wife and I have a giggle when we see it. I married at 33 and my wife was 26 so I shrugged off all the stuff about gold diggers as 1, I am not old with a huge age gap and 2, I don’t have any gold, well none my wife will ever find (Mum got me to put everything into trusts before marrying) and 3, my wife has never asked me for money, even in emergencies so I shrugged off all the stories thinking if old guys are that dumb they deserve it. I had never been married and while I have had my share of girlfriends I have never lived with a woman I had been in a relationship with.
    I used to absolutly love my trips over there, the sitting around all day doing nothing, cheap everything, all the new things I saw and my wife’s huge family really made me feel at home like I had a new awesome family as mine is kind of typically a western, disfunctional type of family. I really fell for my wife in the way she was a woman and let me be a man. Like BLX2s comment about the perfect wife, that was my fiance (except the girlfriend on the side bit) I never had to lift a finger and she treated me like a king, something you read about western women doing about 100 years ago and all the crap about how Asian women still do it now. And me, I could pretty much do what I wanted which was pretty much drinking red horse all day with her cousins and eating huge amounts of takeaway and riding the motorbike back and forth to the liqour store drunk with no helmet in mad traffic; I loved the carefree, dont give a fuck about authority attitude. My wife has never been one to hold a decent conversation and to be honest I am not a fan of opinionated women with attitude, they just don’t do it for me. My wife used to always say how much she would like to live here and work so we could build a good life together and of all the cultural things that was one subject about the western world I thought she understood properly; that a relationship is a 2 way street. So I thought I really had a good catch and took on the attitude of stuff western women, they need to be more like this then they wouldn’t complain about their men as they would be happy, loving husbands.
    Then we got married. Fuck. 2 days after we married the bullshit began. Mainly the jealousy thing, thinking I was making sexy time with all her cousins. I kind of shrugged it off thinking she was tired from the wedding and everything and went home and applied for her visa. It took 8 months and when she got here she was an absolute bitch. Lay in bed all day and tampoed me for 6 out of her first 12 weeks demanding I buy her all sorts of stuff. All of this was such a shock from everything I knew about her, it was like a different person was here. I am not a soft cock either and don’t take to licking arse and was convinced she was the crazy one not me. In the end I threw her out and thats when I found this blog. I actually sat here for 4 days and just read everything on this blog going back to about 2013 as it is so true everything that is written on here. I wish I had of found this blog before I went there I really do as I would never have done what i did. Hindsight is a bitch. As for now though, after I threw her out after 12 weeks she came back 2 weeks later and was pregnant (yes the kid is definatly mine) and to hell if she is going to take him back to that 3rd world shithole so I just grit my teeth and make it work, after all we are close in age and I take the advise of others that the first 2 to 3 years of marriage is hard but it only gets better. Of all the things about my wife I hate I would have to say the one thing is the constant lying; she lies all the f*#king time and it does not so much drive me crazy it makes me hate her more and more. Just the most simple things like what she did today, or if she went shopping or anything she seems totally incapable of telling the truth. Filapinas are the most untrustworthy, sneaky, decietfull, lazy, dishonest and corrupt people I have ever met, the complete opposite to how I was raised. But I will say, and referencing Captain again, we just get sucked in and this from a young guy marrying close to his age. Maybe my story will help you understand. It is not just the age gap thing, they all do it, it is their culture.

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      BLX2

      Compulsive lying makes me pretty sure you have a Cluster B. The 180 on attitude shows a pretender, sounds like love bomb until she felt she had a lock. Another Cluster B hallmark. I think I have finally found a girl who doesn’t lie. Being absent of love bomb and pretending the beginning is difficult, all the problems are upfront. Crap food, crap TV, no experience in proper food storage, of taking care of a Western type home, simple English and easy nosebleeds and my own exhaustion from past pretenders is making things challenging. A controlling sister that thought she could reach into my household, even threaten me caused me to almost unfairly end it on that point alone. The gall. I have my own persona non grata.

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      Johnny

      Agreed, the culture also sucks u in at first cause it’s do carefree, the people are do nice, women chase you, everything’s cheap, etc.
      However, the minute you really start to immerse in the culture, the less you respect it and more you Hate it.

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      leavinglaspinas Post author

      Yeah, I agree that it’s embedded in the culture. I’m also glad to say that many of the younger Filipinos I know and have worked with have much more progressive attitudes. I think it’s likely because they have been exposed to much more worldly ideas (I worked in an international organisation) and a few have traveled quite a bit. But in general an insular and ignorant attitude and a culture of mistrust colors everything here.

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    Johnny

    Men are horny,,,, pretty much always. Think old the guy whose been thru a divorce and is also lonely, or the guy who can’t get a girl. These young girls tell u what u want to hear, seduce, you, make u feel like a champ, and a cheap utopian lifestyle is dangled in front of them (maybe they are just seeing a mirage).

    Then, think about how many men might not be so easy to get along with and a western woman might want nothing to do with them. Maybe they want nothing to do with Western women.

    Older men wanting to be with young girls will never go away. Especially in a 3rd world country where older western men are thought to be rich. If I were you, do the sane with young pinoy men. Just find a couple of them for nothing more than sex or shallow companionship for a short time and have fun. Who cares? If you’re 60 and plan to leave the Philippines, this is the best time and you’ve got it better than the men; you don’t have to worry about getting anyone pregnant.

    For the record, I’m engaged to a Filipina who is 2.5 years older than me and makes way more too. So instead of sm feeling like a king, I feel more emasculated at times.

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      leavinglaspinas Post author

      “Then, think about how many men might not be so easy to get along with and a western woman might want nothing to do with them.”

      ***Ding ding ding*** LOL exactly! Which is why I hate the attitude that by ex BIL takes — that he is a huge catch and western woman are all bitches — I think it’s because they don’t drool over him any more. Lol.

      I have sons and nephews and maybe it’s a generational thing but they are a lot more open minded and actually prefer strong women. But who knows, that may change if they end up old, bald, divorced and pot-bellied.

      As far as me taking on a young pinoy? NO WAY. I find nothing attractive about them and have no interest in supporting their broods. In fact my former driver hinted at just that… and that’s at least partly why he’s a *former.

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    Johnny

    On another note, where can I find this Filipina with the fake tits? I’m tired of the little Asian bodies with no boobs/ ass, and if my fiance and I break up, I need a woman with some curves.

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      leavinglaspinas Post author

      If you’re talking about Princess, that was 10 years ago so I imagine she’s already gone through her slew of suitors and is busy bilking pesos out of whichever relative is the current OFW.

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        Johnny

        I’m actually just kidding. If my fiance and I break up, I’m done with Filipinas forever.
        I personally like mature women or independent types. I need a conversation and some life experience from a girl. We are talking dating seriously of course.

        Like I said my Filipina fiance is 2.5 years older and makes more as well. Our life would be great together if I actually liked the Philippines. I have no respect for the culture and I really don’t like the food either.

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    BLX2

    @johnny55 What’s going on? For some reason can’t reply directly to a comment.

    @johnny55 “Men are horny”, for me their bull shit is like salt peter.

    ” with no boobs/ ass”, I used to think that, but I did discover, not al Filipina’s are like that. In this case it really is true. It’s a lot easier to find one with nice boobs then finding one that’s not fucked up.

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      Johnny

      Lol! You’re right. I think a lot of guys get the girls pregnant as well or as they get older, they see a woman who will really take care of them.

      I guess I’m just used to the Latin body types where I’m from. Or just the USA beach culture.

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    Barry Smyth

    You have said nothing wrong here and I have been in and out of this country for 36 yrs and still smile to see these dicks with the babies in tow at the Malls etc.
    Its the only place in the world where if you remain here and keep control of the 18+ something bimbo you have by family payments etc you can feel like king of the castle.
    But you have to pay its called peso love and the more you pay the more love you get that is until the money runs out or she finds a better catch.
    I have many examples of this I have heard of not a week goes by that one more story comes to light.
    And the families encourage this from there daughters its a kind of wealth gaining exercise.
    They saised her in a nipa hut on a dirt floor and its her job now to find some dumb stiff to put a timber floor over the dirt and supply the constant flow of cash to elevate them to a higher status.