Welcome To The Philippine Houses Of Horror.

A young foreign visitor went into a large Cebu Hospital and came out with feet amputated.  Which hospital was it?  Which hospital were the first in the world to lose its international accreditation with references by investigators towards the doctor and his team as – (the) ‘teams’ shameless “excuses.”  Where was the hospital that was laughing on video at a patient during a surgery?   … More on this soon.

This is a story about the hospital system in the Philippines.

There are many Filipinos that don’t think much of their hospital system. It gets worse as it goes to the provincial level of a hospital where most filipinos I speak to think that “that is it” you will die in the hospital or inherit another problem.

The sad fact is, most of the hospitals are understaffed, have poorly trained staff and incompetence runs high.  There’s a mix of public and private hospitals but as you get into the country and out of the more developed areas these hospitals are mostly public.   The budgets are small and equipment is lacking or dated.

The mindset is among many people that the hospitals are there to make money and treating people is a second exercise.  If the Hospital system in the Philippines object to this, well, you have a marketing problem on your hands as this is the perception amongst nearly everyone I have spoken to, Filipino and foreigner alike. I have received many calls from Filipinos with problems of rapidly rising bills.  The callers all share the same strenuous stories, which if they don’t pay a hospital bill by a particular time, another day will be charged to their bill. You see, this is how hospitals catch people. They have a checkout time much like a hotel and if you don’t meet that time, a new day is charged on your bill. Sad, when you are in fact out of your room, the hospital will keep running up the billing while the bill is unpaid.

Guards are at the doors to prevent hospital “runners”, so they will prevent people from leaving until the bill is paid. There are situations where you can get a promissory note from the hospital but seriously, how many Filipinos have you dealt with that have honored a debt under a promise and repaid the money owed?  For me, over ten years in the country – its a 100% failure rate to repay debt although I am a sucker at helping Filipinos and never expect the money to be returned anyway even if 100% say they’ll pay next salary day – “pR0miC.” as the texts and pleading goes.

The other thing is the white skin effect – quite typical that you find this not just with hospitals, I have been told by many locals when they are in the hospital that I should not come to the hospital or stay clear.  It is stated the doctor will think I am part of the family, and the cost of treatment will go up, or they will find it hard to negotiate the settlement of the bill. What a fuck. This sort of crap goes on all over the country.

The Philippines Drive For Medical Tourism and The Philippines Control On Truth.

There’s a push now for the Philippines to be a “medical tourism” hub. What a joke. They need to fix up the system before they can start engaging in the medical treatment of foreigners for procedures, e.g., Dental work, oral surgery, cosmetic surgery, etc.

After living here a while and getting over the “honeymoon phase” of the Philippines, you will realise that Filipinos are highly defensive when they don’t like what they are hearing, especially coming from the mouth of non-Filipino.

Newbies to this country might think that is a bit harsh to say but seriously, after doing some time here, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

You can see this grasp for control of keeping things “all hands Filipino” in the way the constitution of the country is run where foreigners are blocked out, high taxes are charged or bans put in place eg. bans on giving Filipinos secondhand clothing to running domestic shipping business to dating agencies. If it is so “offensive” to the Filipino way no matter if it is true, filipinos will ban it.   Article II, Section 19 of the 1987 Constitution basically shows this by mandating a self-reliant and independent national economy effectively controlled by Filipinos. This legislation trickles down from the top restricting outsiders, foreigners, aliens and other words they love to label non-filipinos in all manner of business dealings to zero percent foreign equity share. This level of controling filters down through society and into the culture.

Take therefore speaking the truth. Yes, speaking the truth. Filipinos don’t like the truth being told and they will use their power to ostracise the truth-sayers eg. declaring someone “persona non grata” for raising an issue and they will do this publicly. Do a simple google search for persona non grata in the Philippines and you will be surprised.  Jesus, even just to publicly mention on Facebook a posting that your girlfriend is a scammer can get you arrested as recently happened to an Australian.  Try suggesting online that in a tourist area the rubbish is unsightly after not being collected and building up and this can get you publicly chastised by the local town counsellors and declared “unwelcome”.

Furthermore, the government enacted legislation to restrict the truth being told.  In the Philippines, cracking down on people that tell the truth against wrongdoers and bad business is controlled under Cybercrime Prevention Act 2012, therefore, you cannot post anything on Facebook and I guess go to the media without risking retaliation and possible damages claim or jail sentence. Effectively this is a tool that keeps the Filipino culture on track. The culture is largely about – don’t raise a fuss, don’t complain, if you do not like it leave and take your business elsewhere.  Filipinos are placed under threat and in some cases shot dead and silenced as many people have even in the idyllic areas like Boracay, ask the Ati people  (the original settlers of Boracay Island) or citizens in Mindanao.

In other cases, common immigration laws are used to rid the so called whining foreigner from the country. Even more recently there were threats from the Immigration Department to stay out of the countries elections or face deportation. Foreigners have been deported for insulting Filipinos – even for trivial matters. It would be nice if Filipinos took on board some of the comments instead of spending copious amounts of energy defending themselves all the time to keep afloat “Pinoy pride” – oops I forgot, its well written online that you cannot get anywhere arguing with a Filipino let alone, they do not understand sarcasm or irony.

So let me ask you a question?

What if you lost your legs through hospital negligence? With all that I wrote above, how do you think your medical negligence claim would stand if you got gangrene or an surgical botch up?  How would someone who has never come to the Philippines before in their lives arrive for cheap surgical procedures as advertised, the great new medical tourism hub Nirvana and – something fucks up.

How successful would your claim be?

Even at a local level, for Filipinos hiring an attorney is out of the question. Usually, if Filipinos are “pissed” they walk away and never come back after being ignore or offered a token compensation amount. You have little hope of the media or a journalist backing you up for there has been very little coverage about hospital negligence which has happened. Sometimes its raised and then … mysteriously is never covered again.  In some general cases, the person comes back and shoots dead the person who is in dispute.  Simple, that is how it is done in the Philippines.  It is cheaper to shoot dead someone than endure corrupt court systems and greedy attorneys.

It is quite common for a business to ignore its victims.  I witnessed this first hand.  Its quite common for Government departments to turn a blind eye as well.

This is the picture of how typical Filipino business act towards victims.  Victim complains, jumps up and down and is ignored.
In the backroom, however, business is busy terminating staff and hiring new batches of incompetents.  Meanwhile, business does not relate TRAINING with ability.  Business refuses to train and invest in proper training and many companies are going through VERY HIGH staff turnover rates and cant seem to work out why… other than to hire three to five times the number of employees that would be used in developed countries for the same job.

Silently, the business will listen, staff will be terminated, restructuring made on the quiet and there’s HOPE – HOPE that THE PROBLEM WILL GO AWAY and that the victim of whatever happened will shut up and disappear.

This is how the complaints system works in the Philippines.

Filipino society is about not making a fuss. Don’t complain, don’t show anger, let the problem go away.  This is why Filipinos are seen as “kind, caring” people because they never say a thing in a complaint.

 Long timers here know that initially complaining to a company will get no response. “yes sir, yes sir” and …. pfff tt – into thin air it goes. Unlike overseas in countries where people give a shit, Filipinos seriously… don’t give a fuck.

Well, the problem did go away at Chong Hua and so did its International medical accreditation. More on this later.

So how can medical tourism work in the Philippines? Fuck knows… It cannot if they are making fuckups. Foreigners who want to get compensation will be pushing shit uphill. There is ZERO protection for foreigners in the Philippines; the protection is all enshrined in legislation to protect Filipinos. Forget to take the case to court as the system there is bogged in corruption, long waiting times and at the end of it, what would the payout be for a botched operation? – very low because it is in the Philippines.

Filipinos are so hell bent on protectionism it is crippling the country.   As I mentioned above it’s about dignity protection, protecting their own fucking ego’s. The country imposes high taxes to make importation mostly unprofitable and protect local inefficient enterprises and the oligarchs that run (and ruin) this country. There are some areas where foreigners cannot operate such as domestic shipping or media and other areas which are heavily taxed and the ownership structures so risky that the risks are just too high having 60 percent in the hands of a Filipino and only 40% in the hands of an investor. Even to an outsider having a Filipino with 60% ownership is a shit business deal.  Quite typical of the dating scene where the “inputs” of the foreigners side are far more than the “locals” side.  To Filipinos, this is a fair deal with ever increasing expectations to a point of stripping the foreigners dry.

Oh yes… Filipinos go to great lengths to protect themselves and the power brokers even if they treat their customers like shit.

If you want an operation in a Filipino hospital, I would strongly urge you to go back overseas and get it done in an environment that at least has patient treatment standards, accountability and a legal and compensatory framework.  If you stay in the Philippines, I would strongly urge you to get some insurance scheme overseas that pays in dollars, euros, pounds… anything but a local policy that has very little treatment coverage.  Getting a hospital cover locally that covers the room is nothing – the rooms can be 900 pesos a night for a single hospital room without CR.  ITS THE OTHER COSTS that are the killer and your two-bit local health insurance cover won’t cover jack shit.

Test …Test and More Tests

cebu doctors hospitalI often hear from foreigners that hospitals are running up testing to run up the bills. You see, this is how things are played out. You go to the hospital, and unnecessary tests are carried out. The hospital asks you to pay and then get reimbursed when you get home with your travel insurance. Simple huh :)?

Well, this is the trick. The travel insurance firms will flip at having chest examinations and X-rays of the chest for a wrist injury to pay back home; this is exactly what I have seen done, and the travel insurance company was not too happy and, of course, there’s always going to be a dispute when that happens.   No doubt the hospitals have had “altercations” with overseas travel insurers not paying for testing procedures and that is why they try and get you to pay upfront and you Mr. patient follow-up with your travel insurance company later.  The Philippines hospital has wiped their hands of the overtesting… thank you very much.

How hospitals make money
Let’s face it; these guys are money machines and yes, there is legislation in the country that says the hospitals cannot turn people away if they do not have money on them or no insurance, let it be told like everything else in the Philippines – someone has got to pay. That is how the Philippines mostly works if the staff do not pay – the customer pays – but never the business.  For the Filipino response system second to “if you do not like it, leave” is “you should be thankful to have a job or for our business to be around”.

There have even been foreigners who have died at the hands of hospitals in Manila.

Heres some ways hospitals make money (these practices may differ between organisations);

⦁ recharge a day’s room on the bill – yes, even if your out of the room, ready to go home if you haven’t “checked out” with billing they will recharge you another day.

⦁ Hide things in bills eg. if you have returned some things eg. meals because they were incorrect to your dietry requirements from the kitchen, they will still charge you for those meals.

⦁ Perform unnecessary testing – The Philippines seems OBSESSED with unnecessary testing, Xrays, Blood tests, scans of sorts even if its irrelevant. In the hospitals, unnecessary testing is done to out of control levels. Tests that will be unrelated to your condition are performed. I know people that had tests done on their chest area for a lower forearm injury and they were billed nearly $500 for those tests.

Hiding the cost of treatment in the room rate – some hospitals charge a differential rate whether you are in a shared room or a single room. Therefore for the same tablet for example – you will pay a different price for the tablet being in a single room vs someone in a shared room paying for the same medication. I have seen hospital bills and all the costs of pharmaceuticals was disguised under a “room” cost and not itemised. Nothing in the bill is transparent, there are so many charges and break downs you have to request separately from billing fo these. Don’t just take the sum total bill which they present and think that is correct.

⦁ In a lot of cases medications are up to 50-75% cheaper purchased from a pharmacy out on the street than receiving through the hospital dispensed table where they use smaller dose tablets, meaning, eg. if there’s a shortage of 40mg tablets they might use 2x20mg or 4x10mg tablets and, of course, taking those doses in multiples is extremely costly. But this is what they do, they are thinking dispense medication, not save cost to patient.

Be the on top of everything they do and what you are being billed if you are in hospital.

Foreigners are buying into the “mantra.”
The loudest foreigner defenders of Filipino’ism are the foreigners that have been in the country 3 to 6 months or those submissive males that have married and haven’t actually “lived” outside the clutches of their highly protective, jealous Pinay wife.

There are bloggers who say that “you’re a guest”, “if you don’t like it leave”, “I love Filipinos to bits” blah blah blah – fuck me, what bullshit.  I can hear the harps playing now … boohoo.  I fucking realise we are guests.  You will NEVER be a Filipino and will always be considered to have just arrived off a plane no matter if you have been here fifteen or twenty years.

If you really love the Philippines, you need to stand up and get something done about lousy service. I mean in a nice way.  Exercise some assertiveness that Filipinos wouldn’t otherwise do.  If you really want to do something for Filipinos who basically never get off their fucking arses and complain, do it. You might just save a life and you’ll certainly protect someone’s life if the “service” is that bad.

The other thing is that foreigners start GENERALISING. Yes, they hear how bad the system is and start saying “yes but…” as soon as you start hearing the “it happens in all countries” or “its like that everywhere” line, stop. Don’t buy into that bullshit. It’s called a generalisation. This is the Philippines, not Khazikstan or Costa Rica or the UK and your living here, in the Philippines. Suck on it dude, this is called the Philippines not all the other countries, and this is where the subject matter is.  There are moral and ethical obligations here towards humans.

I’ve seen people saying it happens in the US and the UK. Yes, sure does but there’s also heavy penalties and a decent victims compensation system too and alternatives to rectify any fuckups, not a culture hell bent on avoiding blame, putting in place legislation to protect Filipinos and nasty service providers, preventing victims and having a compensation system that’s good for nothing – that’s the Philippines. The place that is known as “more fun” in the Philippines lol.

It’s like I see people commenting on Filipinas that have never been to the Philippines – “wow, look beautiful”, yea, that’s where the fun stops buddy as beyond that there’s a bag of rocks awaiting you.

Exposing life threatening bad practice is not insulting or denigrating Filipinos. You are exposing what Filipinos could otherwise not articulate or be powerless to get anywhere in a corrupt, power driven system. You can make a difference to a lot of people’s futures – both local and foreigners.

CHONG HUA hospital in  CEBU lost its accreditation
through medical negligence

Let me tell you about Chong Hua Hospital in Cebu. The writing was on the wall as there were some articles surfacing in the paper eg. Sunstar newspaper article Its a very large, once respected and well-known hospital in the Visayas in the city of Cebu. Did you know that it once had international accreditation? Its doesn’t have any international accreditation thanks to a case of a foreigner losing his legs when he went into Chong Hua.

chong hua accreditation withdrawn cebu philippines

The accreditation is called JCI.  JCI accreditation is considered the gold standard in global health care. JCI consultants are the most skilled and experienced in the industry.  Chong Hua no longer has this accreditation, it was stripped of it by JCI. The only hospital globally to have had its accreditation stripped and the first time a hospital has been removed from its accreditation program.

You can see it above I have placed an image or see . “withdrawn”.  Accreditation withdrawn http://www.jointcommissioninternational.org/about-jci/jci-accredited-organizations/?c=Philippines

Why? What The fuck? Let’s Break Down The Case –
Back in September 2014 a foreigner living in Cebu was involved in a motorbike accident in Talisay. The patient was treated for a compound fracture to his left leg. The hospital he was first admitted transferred him to what the British Embassy said was the “best” private hospital in Cebu. Chong Hua Hospital.

What resulted in his stay in Chong Hua was a series of negligent errors by the doctor, Agustin Morales and his “medical” team which resulted in the patient getting gangrene, his leg hacked, amputated.

In October 2014, The patient returned to the UK and wrote to the Chong Hua’s medical director, Helen Po … “but she couldn’t be bothered to reply”. That is quite “Filipino” mind you. No doubt there would have been a lot of running around behind the scenes trying to take out heads and rectify the situation in private.

In December, the Chong Hua’s Joanne Cosin conducted an internal “investigation.” And she “believed” Morales’ and his teams’ shameless “excuses.”

What happened next is that the victim in all this sent all of the photographic evidence to the Chong Hua’s American accreditors, Joint Commission International aka JCI international. Of course, JCI on seeing the photos couldn’t believe this. JCI conducted investigations into Chong Hua and were astonished what they found and as a result Chong Hua’s accreditation was withdrawn (AS SHOWN ABOVE – image from JCI’s listings) immediately.

At the time of writing sites still claimed that Chong Hua has JCI accreditation on Wikipedia – Maybe someone needs to go into Wikipedia and fix that and backlink the changed Wiki piece to PFB.  The hospital still is accredited by Phil Health and the Philippines Hospital association and the Department of Health in the Philippines. I doubt that these departments would strip accreditations of Chong Hua as to be honest I have seen more filthier hospitals in the Philippines than Chong Hua and I would suspect accreditation standards to be quite low in the Philippines.

I would be interested to know if they still have the JCI certificate proudly hanging in the hospital lobby still?

Just to put the loss of the JCI accreditation into perspective. 770 hospitals in over 90 countries have J.C.I and Chong Hua was the first to fuck it up. The first and only to be removed ever from JCI.  Another first for the Philippines … JCI produced a long and detailed report why they removed the JCI accreditation on Chong Hua. You could probably email JCI if you want the details.  JCI’s investigation report highlighted 15 serious breaches of BASIC medical practices.

One doctor was Orthopaedic surgeon, Agustin Morales who was instigated in this case.  Doctor Morales visited the patient only once.
There were lapses to a point that the patients friend had to go to a store and buy semi-circular travel cushions for 65 pesos each as the required supportive neck brace never arrived as promised.  Typically, that is a Filipino promise you should never rely on as any Filipino promise it will never happen.

Key points –

1. Make a hospital plan. I wouldn’t advise anyone to bother in a developed country but like a scouts honour “be prepared”. In the event of an emergency, that you know where to go in the event of an emergency. Be prepared.

2. Research around, ask people – accreditations in the Philippines mean nothing. You need to develop a relationship with people who have their eyes and ears on the ground to find out where to go in the event of an emergency.

3. Get health insurance. Seriously, you do not want to end up in an accident or heart attack and heart attacks affect all ages -where your hospital or operation bill could exceed 1-2.5 million pesos. Does your travel insurance cover that cost?  I’m sure your local Filipino coverage will not cover it.

What is the state of your finances and support when you are discharged. Medications in the Philippines is high. Tablets aren’t cheap and usually around 40 pesos+ a tablet. Some things you might need 5+ tablets a day.  Some antibiotics aren’t cheap $50-75+ for vials of IV antibiotics.

Does your hospital insurance cover serious operations? Perhaps look at insurance outside the Philippines something that would cover a surgical procedure that could cost 1.5, 2 million plus. Seriously, If you had a heart attack and needed treatment a stay and procedures at the Manila Heart centre or St Lukes will cost you that and more and you don’t want to be short covered and unable to pay.

1. I know of someone taking over 15 tablets a day. Now think about how much that costs with your available finances.  Before the hospitalisation they were on 2 tablets daily.

2. Ask questions. If the doctor is no right or has his head up his ass like a lot of Filipino doctors do because they have a two-bob degree equivalent to a nursing degree overseas, find another one.  You need to have a “relationship” with the physician not be chasing him up to see where he is hiding.  Pay the doctor direct and not via the Hospital to save money.

3. Take notes, accounts, photographs of what is happening. There is a lot of incompetent staff around – no shortage of incompetence in the Philippines. Your notes will be invaluable if you need to lodge a case for medical malpractice although as I mentioned, filing a case tends to lead to nothing or token settlements.

4. Monitor your medical bills daily and find ways to reduce. You will be surprised how quickly bills add up. You may have to pay some costs “under the table” in cash to avoid charges, reduce expenses and look at what you can get supplied from outside eg. Tablets and injectables may be cheaper outside at a pharmacy than what the hospital are charging. You need to see itemised bills DAILY. I have seen people get a 1.5 million peso bill for 14 days stay in a hospital in Manila and that didn’t even include doctors and specialist consulting fees.   I have heard of another foreign national who had a stroke and his bill was over 2 million pesos being charged to his travel insurance company for many months of stay.  Just remember, you can have an accident or heart attack or stroke in the Philippines at any time – your not indestructible.

Don’t listen to others who say – If something happens ill jump on a plane and goes back.  It does not work that way and airlines can refuse you to board.  Worse still, if you have complications, you pay for the diversion of the plane or a be offloaded in, e.g., Singapore, Dubai, etc.

If you have a public health cover if you are a pensioner – DID YOU KNOW that some countries will not cover you in their public hospital system if you have been out of the country more than 12 months.  Be aware of this.  Don’t rely on your government being there to help you when you return.

5. Stop the mantra “I love Filipinos to death but…”, “I don’t want to say anything negative about Filipinos but”, fuck it, its your health. It’s the health and life of other Filipinos also that by speaking out, exposing that you will not only be helping yourself but others in this country also – Foreigners and locals alike.

and lastly … at another hospital called Vicente Sotto in Cebu –

Video of doctors laughing during a surgery in Cebu.

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    1. Profile gravatar of Catabisis

      Ok, this last one is not fair. If I were in a hospital and watched the absurdity of a can being removed from someone’s ass, by God, that would be some sure fire, straight up comic relief right there.
      The rest of this article is eye opening and freightening. Leave it to the Philippines to be the first in the world to lose accreditation. I’ll never see Chung Hua the same again. Well, at least they keep the floors polished.
      I’ll second the suggestion that someone with the ability correct the Wikipedia statement that they still have accreditation.
      The fact that it is still on that site confirms my college’s policy that any reference to Wikipedia were not permitted within position papers due to inaccuracies.
      Thanks for this article, FHPS. I’ll print out the advice here and place it in my medical file.

      1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
        FHPS Post author

        @catabisis no problem – i have a hard drive full of shocking stories and accounts – its just the time putting it all together. The thing is people know about things, how filipinos are etc but theres no tangible evidence being put forward. Recently i had a couple of guys leave the Philippines simply because they have had a gutful of being ripped off, lied to, taken advantage of by Filipinos. THERE NEEDS TO BE TANGIBLE EVIDENCE PUT UP.

        1. Profile gravatar of Attila

          The loudest foreigner defenders of Filipino’ism are … those submissive males that have married and haven’t actually “lived” outside the clutches of their highly protective, jealous Pinay wife.
          Are they the silent majority?

          1. Profile gravatar of 30-30

            You can see those ‘defenders’ in churches in the first 10 rows.
            The pinay wife sucks them into listening to some preacher

          2. Profile gravatar of Mike

            She sucks them into church so the church can suck cash out of their wallets too.

            One guy I know says he really hates the philippines and is married to a pinay. He says he is the lord of his house. So a pinoy kin folk of his wife was getting married, they are baptist and the bride is catholic so let the fight begin. The wedding kept getting pushed back because the catholics insisted it be held in a catholic church and the baptist in a baptist church. The catholics said it had to be their church because they were such good catholics, never mind the pinay is already 5 months pregnant. Another virgin mary maybe?

            So they get it settled and a date is set with the venue being a small civic building. So kano tells me that there is no way he is wearing a barong but will wear a western suit to the wedding. Does not matter what his wife says, he is wearing a suit or he is not going. So day of the wedding I walk in to find a seat and am greeted at the door by kano,,,,,,,,,, wearing a barong.

          3. Profile gravatar of Mike

            He sure is. The bad thing is he is over 6 foot tall. I did go to the wedding but I DID wear a western suit.

          4. Profile gravatar of FHPS
            FHPS Post author

            @attila 🙂 I can see it now, … it is common for the girlfriend thats “woken up” so to speak to say – you stay here while i go and negotiate if they see you they will ask higher price or she keeps the cousins at bay or the uncles whos first words are “wheres my gift” – not how are you sir, hows your health etc but a DEMAND. A fucking demand expectation that you come bearing gifts.

            Im tired of this “share your blessings” mentality. Sick…sick fucking culture when you get to live within it.

          5. Profile gravatar of Attila

            The rule of “you should share your blessings” is only enforced on Kanos. Filipinos “share their blessings” with their family only. It would be foolish and greatly irresponsible for a Filipino to share his/her blessings outside of their family regardless of how well off they are. Golden rule for Filipinos in all levels of society.

          6. Profile gravatar of Attila

            I haven’s seen a white dude looking good in a Barong. To me It just looks awkward.

  1. Profile gravatar of Esteban Magtaka III Jr
    Esteban Magtaka III Jr

    How the hell did this person get such a large aerosol can stuck up his/her ass? Just another day in the life of Vice Ganda?
    Malaysia and Thailand have got professional medical tourism nailed. Why would anyone choose go to the Phils to be treated by these circus clowns?

      1. Profile gravatar of snakebitbytheflips

        Back in the 80’s there was a rumor floating around Philadelphia about a local TV news anchor who had to have a gerbil surgically removed from his poop-chute. I say rumor because I never fact-checked as to whether it was true or not, but the news/rumor spread like wildfire in that region (even with the children).

        1. Profile gravatar of Johnny

          Richard Gere had that rumor for like 2 decades going around about him. They finally traced it to another actor who worked on a movie with him and hated him. I actually think they said it was Sylvester Stallone. Not sure if it was, but what an evil genius the guy was.

  2. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
    Phil Doh

    Excellent article @foreignerhardpinoysoft

    The guy having his feet amputated sounds very similar to the diabetic Dutch guy in Davao last year. His leg became inflamed, nothing too serious, so he went to the nearest hospital where they prescribed him anti-biotics. A week later and the inflamation had gotten a lot worse so he went to a better private hospital who told him he’d been prescribed the wrong medicine which made it worse and they’d now have to amputate below the knee.

    A few other medical moron stories I know of personally, some of which I may have mentioned in previous posts:

    A friend contracted malaria outside of the philippines and came down with the symptons when he arrived in the philippines. When he went to the hospital the doctor’s diagnosis: “Maybe it’s dengue fever.” Not we’ll run some tests, I’ll take a “maybe” stab at it. After the tests he insisted on confirmed malaria they didn’t have the medicine for it anyway and had to wait for it to be shipped from Cebu. 50k stay in the private suite for 5 nights while he waited.

    A friend’s wife was diagnosed with ovarian cancer and when she asked the doctor what may have caused it he asked a number of questions about her sexual history. His conclusion was that she had waited too long to lose her virginity. Unbelievable. Just making up shit as he goes along or some superstitions he’s brought with him from the jungle?

    Another friend’s wife needed oxygen at the hospital, but they didn’t have any available oxygen at the hospital. They did however suggest a supplier across town. Incompetence or a money making scam? Neither would be a surprise, of course.

    The prices they charge are just ridiculous. 8k to give birth. C section a lot more, of course, and I’ve never known an expat who’s partner gave birth naturally. “Very big baby mam sir, must have c section.”

    A friend who is a filipino nurse but no longer in the country told me that at the hospital she used to work at there they had a policy where the patients would fill out a questionaire. On it would be a box for occupation. They would then administer the best care to those who had the best jobs, ie more likely to pay more.

    The number one rule of being an expat in the land of fails is don’t get sick. Even the best health insurance doesn’t cover for filipino negligence and all the money in the world won’t grow limbs back.

    1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      Hey @phildoh
      1. OMG – I know of a nother ase some time ago with a guy in Mindanao and who had his legs amputated because the doctor supplied drugs turned out to be innefective (possibly copy drug) and he lost his legs. This might be ANOTHER VICTIM of the same doctor if its not the same guy you refer.

      2. I read a story of a guy that went to Tagbalaran hospital and they said his knees were fine. A couple of months later he had to go back overseas to GET A COMPLETE KNEE REPLACEMENT done.

      1. Profile gravatar of 30-30

        I think the medicine here is all chinese or indian fake junk!!!
        You can order up containers full of fake or impure medicines in any language from india!!!!!!

        1. Profile gravatar of Mufazzza

          Quite often they contain a small % of the actual medicine. But they could also be filled with chalk or something, so it’s a real gamble. Cheapskates and tricksters like Pinoy are natural receivers of such junk, adding to the risk of getting sick in the phils Or, more correctly, never to get well again. (As if gross incompetence wouldn’t suffice!)

      2. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
        Phil Doh

        Wouldn’t be surprised if it was a different victim and different doctor. My guess is that these cases are more widespread than people think, especially when you consider filipinos inability to complain about anything and to prove such negligence impossible in what passes for a justice system.

        1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
          FHPS Post author

          to borrow a local expression 🙂 “not all filipino doctors are like that sir” – but seriously, i think i might have something on file. I have so many horror stories on file and trackable of people ripped off in this country, fucked over, killed or subject to medicald negligence and stupidity of filipinos – and in the foreigners come in droves as things get buried, even online.

          Most people overseas would think we were making things up if we told them what filipinos are REALLY LIKE.

          I’ll try and dig this out. This is another story.

      3. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
        Random Numbers

        Reminds me of my first trip to the PI. I was sick, sore throat, fever, etc. Was taken to a doctor in Manila, who said I had tonsilitis “because my tonsils were so big that the food got stuck to them.”! No shit! Strange how that never happens when I am NOT in the PI! Went back the next day, different pinoy doctor, he said that was a ridiculous diagnosis – something I concurred with 100%.

        Only good thing is the ability to get meds cheaply, and without a prescription. Of course, aspirin costs like 5x the US cost, but then, pinoy don’t get headaches from excessive noise, they give them.

    2. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      Is this it? Was in 2015. I have another case going back to 2011 in Davao – diabetic. Leg hacked off.
      Doctor said to him in Mindanao somewhere that he had to buy the medicine through the doctor
      turned out to be rubbish. He developed something that necessitated his leg amputation.
      This was posted in a group. @filofail – captain fyi, and @phildoh – i am sure i have a number of these on file.
      Exactly what was posted just in case your thinking i made spelling mistakes.

      “Gd morning people’s I got a question ! I am diabetic and i had a leg been cut off because the doctor in Davao doc gave me a wrong anti biotic ! Now I been to all hospital,s already to find a real good diabetic doctor who knows his bissnis instead of giving me insulin for big money without having a lot of expencif check ups with no result so anyone knows a good and serious doctor for diabetics here in Davao any good results ?? Thank you”

      1. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
        Phil Doh

        Yes @foreignerhardpinoysoft that’s the guy I was referring to. The hospital he mentioned Davao doc is how people refer to Davao Doctors Hospital http://www.ddh.com.ph/

        “most modern hospital in Southern Philippines with 250 beds and offering state-of-the-art diagnostic, therapeutic and intensive care facilities in a one-stop medical center.”

        Built in 1969 it still looks like 1969 inside. The doctors and nurses I saw there might as well have been working in a sari sari store, the same lazying around, giggling, texting etc.

    3. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      Another posting about a hospital in the Philippines “but a massive issue with the billing. At my most charitable i suspect incompetence, while at worst i think we are subject to organized fraud, directed at foreigners. My advice is do not use this hospital under any circumstances if you can avoid it. “

    4. Profile gravatar of Sarah

      “The number one rule of being an expat in the land of fails is don’t get sick.”

      Absolutely true, Phil! If you do get sick, you get fleeced from Docs, to pharmacy and worse, the hospital who usually demands upfront payments!

      You also need to watch Flip Doctor’s prescriptions. They have a habit of writing multiples of drugs that do exactly the same thing anyway!

      During one of our RP holidays, the ex contracted pneumonia. Flip Doc gave him about 7-8 prescriptions which when presented to the pharmacy, totaled P20,000!! So Doc happily wrote prescriptions without even doing any tests or even x-ray considering the severity of his symptoms. When I checked what the Doc prescribed, there were 3 brand names of bronchodilators which contain exactly the same chemicals anyway, and hence do exactly the things which is to dilate the airways! The other 5 prescriptions were 3 different types of antibiotics, plus a nasal wash. I think the Doc was hoping that if one drug don’t work, one of the 3 has to hit the mark!! Either that or he was getting a huge kickback from the drug companies.

      Another HUGE money making schemes in the Failippines are Diabetic testing kits and insulin. When you buy a specific Glucose monitor kit, you have to make sure that the testing strips are compatible with the machine. In the Philippines, it is common for pharmacists to sell testing kits at massively discount prices, especially when the strips only have 4 months or less left before expiry. So here comes Mr. Diabetic and buys the kit at say, half price. The bad news: Next time he needs a new Glucose strip for his machine…. can’t buy them anymore!!! So he gets talked into buying a new testing kit. Different brand, different strips. Old machines are now useless since the strips for that specific models have been discontinued.

      Considering the explosion of Diabetic cases in the Philippines, you would think that the Philippine government will intervene by educating the people about healthy eating (OK, they’re too stupid to learn anyway, but surely, one can try?). 2) there is an insulin scheme in the RP where the costs of insulin is subsidized by the Phil. govt. The problem is, the scheme is not nationwide. Availability varies from region to region. So the insulin scheme might be available in Cebu city, but not in Siquijor (Southern Cebu) or Bantayan island (far north Cebu).

      Then we have the problem of drug substitution in the RP. How many times have we read about the PNP busting certain pharmacists for selling fake drugs? no wonder some patients end up losing their limbs, and for some, even their lives if the drugs they were taking were nothing but compressed cornflour!!

  3. Profile gravatar of Johnny

    It is funny when they say, “If you don’t like it, then leave”. If I’m living here, spending money, which they are always begging for, then I have a right to complain. The complaints are for EVERYONES benefit, not just mine.

    The irony is Filipinos hate the truth, but they don’t do anything to hide it.
    – Say the place is a garbage infested dump and they get mad, but there is trash everywhere.
    – Say the place is corrupt and they immediately say, “well all countries are corrupt”. No all countries aren’t and it is a stupid excuse anyway.
    – Say the education system is awful, they will proudly claim how many college grads there are, but the education and IQ level of those grads are basically 6th graders in the USA. Tell them that and they will get mad, but just how bright is the population if they keep electing the same thieves over and over? Point that out to them and they really have no answer.

    All the energy in the PHilippines is for the “image”, nothing has to do with actual substance. The disconnect from reality is insane. For instance, they Philippines had less than 5 Million tourists in 2015, but they planned on 10 Million. What did the Tourism department have to say to explain where all his budget went? He said, “well we make more money in tourism than Thailand”. Just a complete lie with no conscience to portray an image.

    This culture is:
    “Come to the Philippines, spend you money, invest here, give us charity, we are poor, we need your money, we need help, anything you can provide would be great. Wait, you have a complaint? Then get out of here, go home kano, but we’ll do everything to keep you money though.”

    1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      education and IQ level of those grads are basically 6th graders in the USA @johnny55
      yes, the mental age is very low here vs the phsycial body age.
      what i mean is a 22 – 23 year old girl might be that in physical age
      but put together with a girl in a developed country she sounds
      12-14 years old on intellect.

      Filipinos are so defensive to a point
      1. My gf leaves the food out in the house overnight. – i say put it in the fridge. No not in this country maybe in your country – UMMMMmmmmm wonder why you woke up with the shits (aka running to the toilet) – nothing changed.
      2. My gf throws rubbish on the ground and out vehicles – i say DONT – reply “why?”

      I mean … how fucking stupid do you have to be to question matters of food hygiene and rubbish and after being told still doubt what i say.

          1. Profile gravatar of BLX2

            Oh but if it is tsismis, even if it is from a trouble making maid they barely know, it is FACT. Nothing you say matters, I don’t think they even hear what you say. To try to give them other information is impossible and even meets with hostility. I did a google search on tsismis and got a little humor relief.

            “Anne Margaret Arizobal, i live in the Philippines
            gossip? very popular! filipinos are known to be very talkative and observant. this lead to them making gossips may it be about their government, their friends, their neighbors, the popular personalities, you name it! they’ve got a lot of opinions for almost every subject. envious? not much. you see, there country might not be the best one but they sure do have the best places in the world. their country may be known for its unending poverty, filipinos have learned to accept this fact, live with it, and are contented with what they have and are naver really that envious.

            Written Oct 18”

            “filipinos are known to be very talkative and observant.”, Observant? LOL, poor girl is delusional.
            ” contented with what they have and are naver really that envious.”, The girl’s got me in stitches…


          2. Profile gravatar of FHPS
            FHPS Post author

            I’ve concluded that Filipinos cannot frame a conversation.
            Firstly they react to everything instead of spending a second to absorb.

            re I don’t think they even hear what you say.

            1. Yes, they only listen to the first and last bit of what you say.
            2. They never understand “context” of what you are saying.
            3. They aren’t focused. Filipinos are highly distracted individuals.
            4. They don’t have the “world experience” outside of junk Philippines TV and soaps to put up a logical, well thought out, structured argument to support the irrationality of what they speak.

            In summary, its pointless debating anything with a filipino.
            As Al said, its me me me
            and when you try and negotiation from a ME view – you get nowhere.
            Negotiations will always fail.

        1. Profile gravatar of Mike

          I can see and understand some stupid people in every country. But what boggles my mind about the philippines is that the majority are so fucking stupid, not the minority as in most other countries.

          1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
            FHPS Post author

            yes Mike @oldnavyfart ;YES!!!

            The majority are stupid.
            People that live here know
            1. the blank stares
            2. the waffle – when they don’t know anything, just blithering talk
            3. unsure
            4. incomepetant that they cant make a decision and have to ask someone
            My friend passed out, no one helped. why? because they had to ask the manager if it was ok to help and ring for an ambulance.
            I mean..wtf .. another case of the ceiling caving in at an Ayala mall… the guards all ran for it, no where to be found.

            The self centred nature boils down to a complete disrespect for each other.
            Filipinos have even trade marked some of this disrespect in their attitudes
            eg. Filipino time.
            FT is just – i don’t give a fuck really what you think, ill just turn up when i feel like it and you can just wait.
            I dont really care about you as a person –
            they will turn up 3, 4, 5 hours later
            ive even had them turn up THE NEXT DAY AT 10AM for an appointment that was supposed to be they were coming
            at 10.30pm the previous evening!

            Like – GOLLY GOSH
            What sort of people are this to turn up and knock on my door at 10am the next morning
            and think IM AVAILABLE,
            I HAVE NO LIFE like a filipino
            like dogs on heat … going from one dog to another

      1. Profile gravatar of Johnny

        What is even more insane is the complete failings in the worst possible ways. What do Filipinos even excel at? What gov’t department actually does a decent job? How often are they always asking for money, charity, help, etc? Yet, the second a non-Filipino makes a recommendation or tries to change the place for the better, it suddenly becomes, “WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING!” or “Well this is the Philippines and this is how we do things”.

        Someone mentioned for such a shitty country, everyone seems to be so proud like they are doing such a great job. Just look at all those tarpaulin signs all over town with their smiling, thieving faces. Any of us would be embarrassed to show our faces if we managed such a shit-pile. Not them, You’d think they built the golden gate bridge or landed a rocket on the moon.

        “We celebrate shitty standards and aim for the shittiest” – That is the Philippine motto.

      2. Profile gravatar of Johnny

        The computer skills of a 12 year old westerner vs a 22 year old Filipino college grad are almost identical. Filipinos only seem to know Facebook and youtube. Even basic programs like word or excel are inconceivable at times to them.

        Not to mention the views and knowledge of other countries. I guarantee a college graduate would not even be able to locate Germany or Australia on a map.

          1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
            FHPS Post author

            @attila yep
            a guy in Thailand was singing karaoke
            the “san fran sisco” song
            by Scott McKenzie
            oh yea these thai girls know the song line by line
            and having a great time.

            He asks… so you know about this song
            they sing it all the time
            but “where is San Fransisco”
            ummm – no one knows.

      3. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
        Random Numbers

        Ask the gf if she knows what bacteria are. If she says yes, ask her if they obey the customs laws. If she says yes to THAT question, laugh at her until she turns red in the face!

    1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      Id’d like to put more eye openers up – and would love others to show eye-openers
      sadly as they say you dont know someone until you live with them.
      The Philippines is like that, you don’t know filipinos until you live in the Philippines.

      They are some of the best marketers overseas (well, the ones that prostituted themselves, begged, borrowed (never to pay back)
      or stolen money – to get the fuck out. They are the smart ones.
      thats why theres so many idiots left in this country.
      the good ones got out leaving the ones that you would swear are on some sort of drugs.

      1. Profile gravatar of John

        “They are some of the best marketers overseas.”
        That’s right. Pinoys in abroad are in the business of promoting their country to anyone. Besides, there is scam artists like Mindanao “The Crooked” Bob who’s selling fantasy world to hopeless foreigners, in USD! The truth is, majority of hopeless foreigners are more open to colorful lies instead of true observations. Wonderland Vs. cold harsh truth, which one they pick?

        1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
          FHPS Post author

          I got another thing that gives me the shits and Mindano bobs wife did an article raising the question
          “is mindanao safe”
          fuck me
          how many times have locals said
          zamboanga is safe
          Ozamis is safe
          are these people shit heads?
          they even said have you read the media – see davao is safe
          yea – try Samal, re bee farm
          i smell another story here for PFB

    1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      and how was the taping of the babies mouth scandal in cebu to stop the babies crying The family were paid off i understand and settlement reached.

      The problem with the internet and print media stories is that they dissapear –

      i had a good one in Cebu where a cleaner was bought in to assist hospital staff
      handling a patient and insert a catheta!
      yes, the tube up the guys penis went horribly wrong.

  4. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
    Random Numbers

    The reason they hire so many workers is most employees are let go at the end of a 6 month contract. The stupid law passed under Arroyo is the reason, after 6 months they have to pay for a whole bunch of benefits for the employees, and you know what kuripot people business owners are there! The government thought they were smarter than the business people, so they passed a law mandating certain benefits after 6 months, to which the business owners replied by terminating almost everyone before they qualified for the benefits! Since they know they will not keep the staff, why spend money training them properly? This system exacerbates the horrible service and makes for a nation of highly unemployed,l lowly skilled workers.

    1. Profile gravatar of 30-30

      I found Ace hardware to the worst for service. The salesmen just tell you what you want to hear.
      They are hired for 6 months and do not know anything about the products. Yes sir,,, it is good but out of stock..

      1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
        FHPS Post author

        Just to say a lot of businesses sell on CONSIGNMENT. I understand Gaisano is like that
        therefore most of the stock is display stock and they order goods in.

        Great business model
        customer has to wait
        business holds no stock – its all consigned to display and show

    2. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      I know some businesses that have 100%%% turnover with staff before 12 months.
      Many are terminated because of
      1. absenteeism
      2. poor performance
      3. AWOL completely – just never show up.

      1. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
        Random Numbers

        It is designed for 200% turnover a year, that way the business doesn’t have to pay health benefits, maternity leave, vacation…

        Gloria Arroyo helped pass this nonsense. Now, unless you are an EXCEPTIONAL employee, you need to get 2 new jobs EACH YEAR. Until you are too old, of course, then no one will hire you. That’s why there are so many sari sari stores and turo turo places, no other way for them to earn.

        With unemployment over 30%, employees are too afraid of losing their jobs to complain.

  5. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
    Phil Doh

    I saw something which made me laugh the other day. I’m always seeing duterte supporters posting stuff about how amazing davao is. One post was on how advanced the hospitals are with pictures to prove so. One had a cleaner sweeping the floors with one of those typical filipino brooms (the sort where half of it falls apart on the first sweep), not a bucket and mop with disinfectant.

  6. Profile gravatar of FHPS
    FHPS Post author

    This is typical of filipino business –
    People pay to work in a place without wages – HOSPITALS
    Many hospitals are charging new nurses fees in exchange for work, training and experience, which are required for nursing jobs abroad. This offshoot of the government’s exploitative labor-export policy needs to stop, according to the Gabriela Women’s Party.

    No wonder the service levels are so fucking rotton in the Philippines!

    1. Profile gravatar of loco_loco

      Yep, they charge the nurses in training !! just imagine that u have a 12 hours day maybe in the emergency room and u have to pay for that bullshit to work there… Only in the Philippines

    2. Profile gravatar of Johnny

      Here’s how and why that happened:

      Basically, the entire country’s student population wanted to be nurses or anything that could get them outside of their own shitty country. Basically there was such a worldwide demand for nurses, the nursing program became overloaded with students. Personally, I think that is why so many fly by night nursing schools popped up. There was such an huge mass of students looking to go abroad and the supply was meeting the demand,, until demand slowed down a little bit then there was a little more supply.
      The biggest blow was when the “image” of the Philippines got shattered a bit. There was a cheating scandal exposed where the nursing students were simply paying for their Philippines license. Of course, they were not able to cheat on the USA board exam, but the USA did not want to take chances so they immediately banned all incoming Filipino nurses for like a year or 2. That left a huge supply of nursing students with no jobs.
      And since Filipinos always have to exploit a situation, hospitals only allowed nurses to be interns for 6 – 12 months with the “possibility” of getting hired. Then to take it another Filipino step further, someone got the idea they could make money off the desperation of poor Filipinos in need and started charging them to work for free. At least with slavery, you don’t pay them to exploit you. Its funny when they say foreigners exploit Filipinos.

      1. Profile gravatar of kalbo

        Added into the mix are the bogus recruitment firms who charge processing fees for nurses to apply for nonexistent jobs abroad. After a while they close down the office and move somewhere else.

        1. Profile gravatar of Johnny

          Those are basically traveling circus shows going from town to town. I actually know someone whose wife went for the scam. He warned her ahead of time, but the guy really conned her and she forked over like 30,000 for all the visas, passport, fees, and they were going to hit her up for some more money for housing in Canada. Luckily, they got caught just before she showed up with more money.
          Again, Filipinos exploiting desperate Filipinos, but somehow they blame foreigners and China for all their problems.

      2. Profile gravatar of Mike

        It was in the last 3 years that I read either on Yahoo news, Philippine Daily Inquirer or the Star that they claimed that the philippines provided 60% of the nurses to the U.S.

          1. Profile gravatar of BLX2

            I was thinking it was proof that they are compulsive liars that magnify the fuck out of everything.

          2. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
            Random Numbers

            Don’t always ascribe to dishonesty that which can be caused by ignorance and stupidity. I am not saying they aren’t dishonest, just that you should never underestimate the power of human stupidity!

          3. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
            Random Numbers

            Yes, I was referring to the 60% of nurses. How they could believe their decrepit education system could supply that many nurses for a nation of 320 million people just shows they are easily fooled, unable to think of size or scope on their own

          4. Profile gravatar of BLX2

            @random-numbers Percentages are calculated using numbers. Doesn’t require comprehension if it is an honest claim, just the numbers. Obviously they didn’t do the calculation. So they lied. They did fail to comprehend size (must of been a pinoy, pinays do seem to comprehend size), when they lied and magnified the fuck out of it. 🙂

        1. Profile gravatar of Johnny

          Fucking impossible. There are a lot, but nowhere near that many. They are probably counting basic care givers in that as well as just plain lying.

        2. Profile gravatar of snakebitbytheflips

          Don’t know whether that is true (the article may have been written by a prideful baboon who used a “nom de plume” to mask his/her real identity), but if I had to be admitted to a hospital–whether it be here in the “yewess”, Europe, or anywhere in the world–I would never let one of those baboons get near me. As long as I am conscious, I will make it clear to them, and of they do not honor my demands, I will sue.

          I have a friend who is a nurse. She once told me that the flips who worked at the hospitals she worked in were extremely lazy. Imagine that.

          As for doctors, I had a flip doctor once (back before my lobotomy was reversed and I started seeing those vermin for what they are), and she did have an “air of superiority” about her. I eventually fired her because I started seeing her as nothing more than a whore for Big Pharma. Looking back, I remember that, anytime I would go to her office and describe the symptoms I have, she would write them down on a note pad then excuse herself for a couple of minutes. Then she would come back and tell me what drugs she will prescribe for me. I now think that she was going into her personal office, enter the symptoms on to her computer, then the computer would tell her what to prescribe.

          I now see an excellent osteopath who is a million times better than her. He is Canadian.

          1. Profile gravatar of John

            It wasn’t in the news, but I heard that some of the Pinays retirement workers offer massage with happy ending, for a tip! The senior himself told me that if you get lucky, you may end up with a blowjob!

          2. Profile gravatar of snakebitbytheflips

            I have a buddy who is the only flip I could trust–he has been living in my home ever since his flip wife left him. Both of them are Certified Nursing Assistants but they worked in two different nursing homes. A couple of years ago, his wife–who was already separated from him–was posting things on her FB account about making a decision whether she wanted to leave the CNA profession and work as an accountant in a doctor’s office. The comments she made about “seeking God’s will”, etc. made me want to puke. She eventually did leave and started work as an accountant at a podiatrist’s office; about a year later my buddy had a new co-worker start at his nursing home. She told him that she previously worked at the same nursing home as his wife, and told him that she was FIRED from there after being “caught in the act” with an elderly resident. So much for “God’s will”.

            As for the podiatrist she is working for now, there is evidence that she is providing the same “services” to her boss. I feel sorry for him.

          3. Profile gravatar of snakebitbytheflips

            In an earlier comment here I mentioned I have a buddy who is the only flip I can trust. His father passed away in July of 2012; recently he told me that, while being hospitalized, his dad’s “doctor” had prescribed a certain medication (I don’t remember the name) but it should not have been prescribed because he had ulcers due to the fact that he was a heavy drinker all his life (imagine that–a flip who is a heavy drinker!). Well, my buddy’s sister–who still lives over there–told the doctor about her father’s ulcers and that this medication causes bleeding but the doctor didn’t listen and demanded that it be given to him. Shortly after, he died from severe internal bleeding. Disgusting.

        1. Profile gravatar of Johnny


          Yes, the dude may have actually killed more as they started tracking his previous jobs. The funny part is the UK was so angry about it and started questioning other Filipinos, so being stupid is their culture, they cried racism. Filipinos and the gov’t said that was an isolated case,,, basically the deny despite not bothering to hide the truth whatsoever.
          Then that UK reporter went to the Philippines and was able to get a nursing diploma, certificate, and other false documents from that Recto University. He posted pics of all the shit they do in the open and I think they got kinda quiet. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3086869/For-just-43-bought-bogus-papers-qualified-nurse.html

          I think another reporter went to the Philippines and took one of their, “work in the UK” seminars. He found they were basically telling them how to fake their documents, cheat on tests, and scam their way in.

          I absolutely love when they get exposed internationally. They really will lie right until the end like they believe it, cry racism, throw a tantrum, try to reverse the accusations, and shed tears at the audacity of being accused until all the evidence is presented. Then of course the tears start falling. The culture is about pulling a scam anywhere and everywhere.

          “Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim, nicknamed “Dirty Harry” for his tough stance with the national police, ordered a clean up of the ID mills several years ago.”
          – Yeah, and how did that go? Such fucking liars.

          1. Profile gravatar of

            About the false diploma. You can get any diploma or license here. Just go to Quipo once you are in Manila. Dont believe me? Ask any fili[ino from here. You can get a cheap diploma license or whatever for very cheap price, than there is a good one that look 100% real or if you know the right people you can get original one for little higher price.

        2. Profile gravatar of Mike

          There were cases in Calif where the filipinos nurses stole credit cards from their home health care patients and ran up thousands in bills. Then Calif busted a home health care group owned by filipinos that would hire other filipinos claiming they were RNs. The group got busted after they swiped $5 million from the state. Their were like 50 people in the company and the state charges 34 with fraud, all filipinos.

      3. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
        Random Numbers

        If you look at filipinos, you will see that many of them would LOVE to own slaves! Since it is technically illegal, they figure out ways around the law. If they aren’t prosperous enough, then they breed their own slaves, send them abroad as whores while they eat, sleep, fuck and watch tv.

  7. Profile gravatar of Mike

    My son kept getting UTIs and dr said he needed a tuli. Well that tuli resulted in a 2 day hospital stay that cost about 30,000 pesos. The to top it off he has a big sack under the head filled with liquid and stitches though the head. FUCKING FILIPINOS MORONS!!!! DID GOD MAKE A PEOPLE MORE STUPID? i DON’T THINK SO. Capt said it’s ok to post a pic of what they did. Will try as soon as I figure out how to put it in comment section.

    1. Profile gravatar of loco_loco

      “We’re a great people. Our people sacrifice. They do without, so that they can give to their children all that they can. And our people deserve so much more. That’s what this journey is all about. It’s giving our people their due.” – Mar Roxas

      More is not needed to say…its also to find as video on the net…There you know whats the deal…a total life in denial…everywhere you go

    2. Profile gravatar of snakebitbytheflips

      That reminds me of a post someone made two years ago:


      Those smooth-skinned baboons are completely obsessed with making sure that every male in that poor-excuse-for-a-country has part of his little (or not so little in the case of older ones) pecker cut off. It is harmful, senseless, medically unnecessary (as proven by the 90% of the world’s males who are uncut), and clearly a case of child abuse, but because they are so prideful, you can’t convince them of that.

      Your son (and you, since you are his father) were victims of a quack circumfetishist who passes off as a “doctor”. UTIs can be prevented through proper hygiene, proper nutrition, and clean drinking water (all of which is sorely lacking over there).

      I am so glad I bailed. I shudder to think of what could have happened if I were to get sick or injured in that shite-hole.

  8. Profile gravatar of Nik

    great article, i only wonder why you used this picture which would be more suitable when telling about medical service in russia or ukraine.

    1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      @pesochek Hey Nik ..
      The picture – its a free use picture with no copyright.
      It was a gloomy picture for a gloomy story
      esp about a patient having an amputation.
      I guess I could have used a picture of a birthing ward where people are 2-3 to a bed swapping beds
      in Manila or some other pic.
      No doubt if that was in the Philippines those scrap items
      the beds and radiator etc would have been stolen

      1. Profile gravatar of Random Numbers
        Random Numbers

        No need for radiators in the PI. I am sure the first time they see them, they wonder “What the heck are those?” If it’s winter and they are on, I wonder how many pinoy burn their hands touching them?

          1. Profile gravatar of Mike

            Not me. First thing mom taught me was not to eat yellow snow, second don’t eat brown snow. Then for the third she got the aluminum ice tray out of the freezer, got my finger wet and touched it to the tray. That was how she taught me about wet body parts and frozen metal.

    1. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
      Phil Doh

      Nice to see the top comment from Mikey Bustos, a unique pinoy who manages to be proud for the right reasons and pokes fun at pinoys without causing too much offense.

      Apparently this video is getting passed around quite a bit by filipinos on social media and by the amount of downvotes (outnumbering the upvotes) you can tell the pinoy pride brigade have spammed the video. Usual typical reactions. Attack the messenger not the message.

      Political correctness has never existed in the philippines, but I think it will soon. The recent uproar to pacquiao’s anti gay comments will be looked back upon as the start. Like everything else they eventually mimic the west, and always make a complete pig’s ear of it. There’ll be all kinds of scandals and dramas due to he/she said this or that. They rarely think for themselves and always follow the herd.

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          Esteban Magtaka III Jr

          @BLX2 Absolutely Agree. PC has become tantamount to mind control in some countries, including my own. People are way too busy ‘being offended’ these days.

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            You probably heard this story about a man being locked up for 3 days for posting on twitter
            A PR boss who asked a Muslim woman to ‘explain Brussels’ has been arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred.

            Matthew Doyle, an LSE alumnus and partner at a south London-based talent agency, sparked outrage on social media after he ‘confronted’ a Muslim woman about the Brussels attacks which killed 34 people.

            He wrote on Twitter: ‘I confronted a Muslim woman in Croydon yesterday. I asked her to explain Brussels. She said “nothing to do with me”. A mealy mouthed reply.’

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          Common decency is more like it. Not to mention the low IQ and “non-hospitality” and “unkind” nature of Filipinos come right out and destroying the image what they want people to think.

      1. Profile gravatar of Johnny

        LOL! They can be so stupid can’t they?
        Yes, they only come from the USA in Philippine minds. They couldn’t pick Africa out on a map.
        Ever have a tall black friend in the Philippines? They automatically assume he’s in the NBA. He doesn’t even need to be over 6 feet tall, but they will think he’s a basketball player.

        Filipinos are almost equivalent to monkeys at times with their stupidity. Even with movies and internet, they still freak out when they see a foreigner or a black person sometimes. Go to remote places and you will be stared at with kids pointing at times cause they’ve never seen a non-Filipino person in their entire life. Then of course they have no idea how to act casually/ not-rude/ not-obvious when they see something difference in their little shit-hole for the first time. They are closer to neanderthals at times than homo-sapiens.

        1. Profile gravatar of Esteban Magtaka III Jr
          Esteban Magtaka III Jr

          Don’t forget that Flips still openly refer to black people as “Negros”. In the past, I’ve had to quickly stop my Filipina mid-sentence when we have been in London and ask her if she actually wanted to make it through the day alive.

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            Negros? I have been out walking around when they see a black. All the filipinos will point, whisper or talk to each other ” Look, a nigger.” Yes that’s what they say. I’m just waiting for them to say it loud enough for the blacks to hear and watch the beat down begin. I have also seen them grett whites “Hey motherfucker, how you doing” “Hi fucker” and so forth.

      2. Profile gravatar of Johnny

        I watched part of it. When he says, “he feels like he’s chosen by god or feels honored god has given him the chance”, does that mean he feels lucky to execute people he deems criminals?

        Further, its no wonder I’ve never seen much English video or news about him. His English is very poor.

        The guy really hates drug dealers,,, a lot. However, when the official unemployment rate is 20% and the unofficial is probably like 40%, what do you expect? Not everyone in the Philippines can be a corrupt gov’t worker. Someone has to suffer when everyone in gov’t is corrupt.

        1. Profile gravatar of BLX2

          Drugs are not causing the problems in the country. It’s corruption, corruption, corruption. Followed by birth control, birth control, birth control. Shebu can cause impotence, so Darwin can help with the mess. Cut out the middlemen to lower food cost? How about the 35 – 50% tariff on rice imports plus another 12% VAT? How does eliminating 5/6 lower food costs? Another Hong Kong, I guess the m asses will believe anything.

          1. Profile gravatar of BLX2

            @dpjb2923, education is important. But widescreen TV’s to solve the issue? I think they need interaction with someone with a head on their shoulders. A chance to ask questions and get honest educated answers. Didn’t he say something about doubling the teachers pay and then later say something about adding shifts? I thought it was a strange approach. First, the teachers themselves need to be re educated. The blind can not lead the blind.

        2. Profile gravatar of Johnny

          I think the masses are about to be sorely mistaken a year into this dudes presidency. I see a lot of journalists fleeing the country, disappearing, or going to jail.

    2. Profile gravatar of Esteban Magtaka III Jr
      Esteban Magtaka III Jr

      The lady seems very nice, and I certainly don’t like to see anyone upset by these assholes… Agreed that this should go viral to counter the “Its’s more fun in the Philippines” bullshit.

      On the flip side (excuse the pun), I cannot help but feel that people raised in countries with a nanny-state bubble of political correctness have become far too sensitive and easily offended… Indeed, political correctness in the UK has actually reached the point of being stifling for those of us who believe in freedom of speech – One reason I chose not to live their any more.

      The Philippines – or SE Asia in general – certainly isn’t a desitination for anyone who is oversensitive to anything which falls outside their comfort zone or anything that is outwith their defined norms of behaviour.
      Nobody should ever be going to a third-world country unprepared, like a lamb to the slaughter, expecting it to be ‘just like home but with a beach & nicer weather’ and expecting everyone there to be ‘nice’. There is so much reference material available at our fingertips these days, that we can quickly Google the bad and good points about a place. This way an informed decision can be reached about whether the destination is suitable, and we one can be prepared for the ‘culture shock’ of arriving in a country full of mindless morons who may be inclined to say ..If she had read a few blogs like this before her trip, she perhaps wouldn’t have taken personal offence at this dumbfuckery or viewed it as a personally traumatic experience.

      Political correctness aside, this lady IS actually a fat black lady; Just like am a fat,ugly and completely bald pinkish-white guy. When Pinoys tell me any of this – which they oh so often do – I just say ‘I know’ and/or tell them to go fuck themselves. They no longer try to poke my fat stomach or rub my bald head , as they realise that they may become one with the wall should they do so..

      The last time I got upset at being called fat I was around five years old. I have not seen the need to spend the past 40 years fooling myself that I am a waif-like male supermodel or ‘beautiful inside’, so if some dumb Flip wasnts to state the obvious and giggle like a kid , then zero fucks given here as – in the whole scheme of life -the joke is undeniably on them.

          1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
            FHPS Post author

            @pesochek I had filos offering beers – rare!!
            typically they say “where’s my gift” you got (insert brand of alcohol)
            but the times they offer something is when they want something
            and one of my friends was backed into a corner
            after they had bought him beers
            they wanted him to buy a block of land
            Like wtf? deal is fair
            we buy you beers
            you buy our land
            …. they got quite pissed off at him when he refused
            but this is the
            one-sided stupidity of Filipinos

            1. one sided
            2. TAKERS – they arent natural givers
            3. if they GIVE – they have the motive to get back more than the “value” of the give
            4. never trust a Filipino doing something for you for free – THEY always want something back in return.
            friends that have been injured, sick, etc. – yeah, people have helped, but they all came back hinting and asking for tips
            , extras, alcohol etc.

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            Random Numbers

            Reminds me of my first trip, some random pinay came up to me in Robinson’s Malate. She told me that she had 2 younger sisters, both nurses, who would love to meet a kano, and would I come by? First trip, didn’t know better, so I said sure, and went to their house a day or 2 later. I get there, neither sister is there, but there is an uncle, he tells me how some fiesta is coming up, and I should come back to the house for fiesta and bring a big bottle of top-shelf liquor with me! Yeah, like that’s gonna happen after I met nobody!

      1. Profile gravatar of Nik

        my thoughts exactly. making mountain out of a molehill. i don’t want to come to usual “take it or leave it” bullshit line, but stopping being such pussy would be good enough already.

      2. Profile gravatar of Sarah

        “Just like am a fat,ugly and completely bald pinkish-white guy. ”

        Awwwww, Stevie!! Must you burst my fantasy bubble?? 🙂 And I thought you were tall, dark and hassome ($$) 🙂 and with a six pack. Oh well, I’ll settle for a San Miguel six pack then…. to drown my sorrows 🙂

        1. Profile gravatar of 30-30

          To Sarah
          ”””” And I thought you were tall, dark and hassome ($$) 🙂 and with a six pack. ””’
          You are probably thinking of me…. I am a George Clooney type of guy,, ruggedly handsome…lolol

        2. Profile gravatar of Mike


          Ignore Al there, I’m the one and here’s why:
          1.) I look like Robert Redford, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise all wrapped up in one with the singing voice of Dean Martin.
          2.) I have more money than Bill Gates.

      3. Profile gravatar of John

        “If she had read a few blogs like this before her trip, she perhaps wouldn’t have taken personal offence at this dumbfuckery or viewed it as a personally traumatic experience.”
        Yes, that would be a help. But the problem is, there are ten times more websites – even organized businesses – out there in the business of promoting the country.
        Anytime I talked to someone about the issues in the Philippines that I observed personally, they simply stopped me. Or, they looked at me like I’m falsifying! People don’t like to hear criticism; they only like to hear the stories about smoking hot girls at sunny beaches! Well, that’s where guys like Mindanao “The Crooked” Bob coming along!

          1. Profile gravatar of


            Talking about Nigeria. Did you noticed that many companies dont ship their products there because of all the cams with creditcards and not only that? Well many companies make the same about PH recently. And if this will be keep going Im sure PH will be in th same situation as Nigeria. Already now a lot of shops not shipping their goods to PH.

          2. Profile gravatar of FHPS
            FHPS Post author

            @polish_king yes, a lot of places wont deal with Nigeria fullstop and the Philippines has low standards when it comes to internet and banking security.

            The Philippines will be Asias next Nigeria
            We have an example that supports this
            take the transfer to the Philippines by hackers of $81m recently.
            The amount of scammers will be overwhelming for the Philippines and they don’t have the government, budget or mental intellect to stop hackers and scammers and other criminals coming here to launder money.

  9. Profile gravatar of 30-30

    The guy getting married in a barong is another lamb off to the slaughter house. 4 months knocked up and arguing over churches????? Sounds like they were more concerned over religion than the baby.
    Another day of misery in flip land

  10. Profile gravatar of Hey Joe
    Hey Joe

    Our old buddy Gary McMurrain is at it again. But this time he is on the receiving end. I have been reading “Trouble in Paradise” thread over at living in the philippines yahoo group
    A small sample:

    /It wasn’t any major trouble but trouble which took time to address. No, the trouble was not caused by a Filipino but the trouble was caused by an American. Surprise, Surprise!

    This morning around 10am, as we were returning to the subdivision where we live, the American husband of the President of the Homeowners Association was at the entrance gate and was at the security officers office at the entrance. He told us we could not enter without a sticker and we could not get a sticker unless we were Homeowners Association members. We need to pay up!

    What did we do? We got out of our Crosswind, locked it, walked around the gate and walked to our home in the subdivision. That’s right! Our Crosswind was parked, blocking entrance to the Subdivision./

    / This is a good one,, well worth reading. I know pinoys are hypocrites..but Gary, old buddy, you have gone full native. Okay, it may or may not be you’re right to join this HOA. But who pays for what YOU are enjoying ?? guards, pool, street lighting..ect.ect.? Hummm?
    So, let’s just blame the “jackbooted American” for enforcing HOA rules, like no chickens, no hanging clothes on the fence. The better subdivisions we looked at had rules just like this. Sorry Gary, but I would agree with these rules. I don’t want to live with chickens right next door, or some dumpy little store next to me. If I were to pay many millions to buy a nice house in a nice subdivision I would like to keep my property value up and not let it degrade with chicken shit stuff pinoys do.


  11. Profile gravatar of 30-30

    ”’That was how she taught me about wet body parts and frozen metal.””
    we were too poor for a fridge.. I stuck my tongue on a steering wheel in the middle of winter,, never again

  12. Profile gravatar of BLX2

    I can’t get a direct statistic on Filipino nurses that is current. In 2000 it looked like this:


    “Although foreign-trained nurses now account for around 5 percent of the total U.S. nursing workforce, they represent a growing percentage of newly licensed nurses.”

    “Indeed, until the mid-1980s Filipino nurses represented 75 percent of all foreign nurses in the U.S. nurse workforce.10 Their representation dropped to 43 percent by 2000 as more countries began sending nurses abroad.11”

    So in 2000 Filipino nurses in the US was around 2.15%.

    In 2010 percentage of all foreign nurses was 15%.

    “Among the foreign born employed as registered nurses in 2010, 34 percent were born in the Philippines.”


    So in 2010 the calc would be 5.1%.

    I can’t find numbers on that but there is an indication that the numbers could be headed down.

    Of course being great speakers of English they are winning friends in the nursing community:

    Delano Regional Medical Center

    “Of the 353 hospitals evaluated in California, Sutter Medical Center in Sacramento scored the highest with 67 out of 100. Delano Regional Medical Center in Kern County was the lowest with a 25.”


    Too many flipino nurses= WORST hospital in the state
    “Da Boss Los Angeles, CA
    #3 Aug 28, 2013

    I’m Mexican but maybe if we didn’t have all the Mexican girls getting pregnant and just partying we’d have more Mexican nurses. But it seems Filipinos have their own priorities and Mexicans have their own. Mexican like “el desmadre” instead. And that’s why we usually get nowhere.”


    Should we take a poll? Da Boss claims to be Mexican.
    What do you think:
    A) Mexican
    B) American
    C) Canadian
    D) Indian
    F) Filipino

    Speaking of discrimination, some of the comments on this thread sound like they could come from PFB.


    Like the internet, another race to the bottom.


  13. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
    Phil Doh

    Just came across a new story today by an expat on another forum. His brother in law was diagnosed with stage 2 tongue cancer and the doc was quite aggressive in pushing him to have an operation, telling him he’d wash his hands of him if he didn’t commit to it. The expat knew of an ENT specialist who had worked in Arizona for 14 years and contacted him for a second opinion. Turns out it was pre cancerous and a very simple procedure.

    I don’t know what’s more scary – incompetent fuckers or crooks lying about the severity of your condition.

    1. Profile gravatar of FHPS
      FHPS Post author

      @phildoh you know the drill mate.
      as soon as somehting hurts in this country they have it out.
      prime example is the TEETH
      if its aching they pull out the teeth instead of drilling it or trying to save it.
      stupid morons have got it in their heads to have teeth extracted if its aching
      too expensive to save
      they cannot put a value on their teeth.

      1. Profile gravatar of Phil Doh
        Phil Doh

        It never matters what the best solution is though @foreignerhardpinoysoft, only what they can charge the most for. Doesn’t matter if your tap needs a washer changing and you can convince the customer the whole house needs re-plumbing or a simple hospital procedure equals body parts being removed, if there’s money to be made fuck it. Rip them off.

        Is there even a filipino word for “conscience”?.

  14. Profile gravatar of snakebitbytheflips

    In an earlier comment here I mentioned I have a buddy who is the only flip I can trust. His father passed away in July of 2012; recently he told me that, while being hospitalized, his dad’s “doctor” had prescribed a certain medication (I don’t remember the name) but it should not have been prescribed because he had ulcers due to the fact that he was a heavy drinker all his life (imagine that–a flip who is a heavy drinker!). Well, my buddy’s sister–who still lives over there–told the doctor about her father’s ulcers and that this medication causes bleeding but the doctor didn’t listen and demanded that it be given to him. Shortly after, he died from severe internal bleeding. Disgusting.

  15. Profile gravatar of Mindanao

    I’ll be needing a gynecology license. Can someone please get that worked up for me so I can have the office set up by the time I arrive?

    Thanks in advance.